StayPuff Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 (edited) I know all the pro and cons a simple yes or no. I know where my vote will go and if you dont know about apex and the problems they can have or sometimes run great read up and vote im just curious Take a vote Edited January 26, 2016 by StayPuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paratore Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Yes! I love mine, such peace of mind while at school Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Hell yes!!!! sent from a Samsung note 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beer503 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 I wouldnt run a tank without it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The ReefBox Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Me either 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClark Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 I am in that camp, cannot believe how much easier it is to maintain and monitor a large system. I have several success stories of the apex saving my bacon and allot of coral $$ along with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saltwater newbie Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 110% yes wouldn't go without has saved my butt a few times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reefnjunkie Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Im curious about problems they have had- Sure Ive had an issue once and had to send it in but on a system like mine, I couldn't even wrap my head around not having one I have 3 EB8s a DC4 and wish I had 2 more EB8s then there is the WXM the break out box, the feeder, water sensor that have saved my [language filter] countless times, the float/pressure switch that shuts of the skimmer so I don't over flow the 5 gallon collection bucket- hahaha Which reminds me I got a text tonight telling the skimmer is off and the bucket is full. Im bias 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StayPuff Posted January 26, 2016 Author Share Posted January 26, 2016 (edited) Do you have to have a phone for the apex to work? I got rid of my home phone 20 years ago I run wireless and cell only For the updates etc Edited January 26, 2016 by StayPuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saltwater newbie Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 You need Internet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StayPuff Posted January 26, 2016 Author Share Posted January 26, 2016 You need Internet I have wireless internet no home phone got rid of home phone junk many years ago. Are these wireless or do I have to run wires to it? The major bad thing I heard is when you do updates it is a pain and also there is not goo support for these Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 The support is one of the best things about Neptune, they also have a huge forum that you can find answers to most any issue. No phone needed, wireless internet is all you need but you can hard wire it via Ethernet if you want. You will need a wireless Ethernet adapter but that's about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StayPuff Posted January 26, 2016 Author Share Posted January 26, 2016 The support is one of the best things about Neptune, they also have a huge forum that you can find answers to most any issue. No phone needed, wireless internet is all you need but you can hard wire it via Ethernet if you want. You will need a wireless Ethernet adapter but that's about it. Ya I have that thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadySaber Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 I would love one but the cost right now is out of reach. I want one for the leak detection. Maybe with tax return if I don't owe I can grab a used one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bevo5 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Most important piece of equipment there is - in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StayPuff Posted January 26, 2016 Author Share Posted January 26, 2016 I would love one but the cost right now is out of reach. I want one for the leak detection. Maybe with tax return if I don't owe I can grab a used one Get yourself a good accountant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Z Reef Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Controllers are worth their weight for sure! If I did it all over again I would have used Apex, I have all the RK goodies but still wish it was an apex lol! You are fortunate to live here where many of these guys are basically pros at setting them up so you won't have to worry about tech support. I look back at how many plug timers my controllers have replaced, worth it from that standpoint alone let alone all the extra controls it offers. Won't reef without one now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StayPuff Posted January 26, 2016 Author Share Posted January 26, 2016 Controllers are worth their weight for sure! If I did it all over again I would have used Apex, I have all the RK goodies but still wish it was an apex lol! You are fortunate to live here where many of these guys are basically pros at setting them up so you won't have to worry about tech support. I look back at how many plug timers my controllers have replaced, worth it from that standpoint alone let alone all the extra controls it offers. Won't reef without one now. Ya that's what I'm thinking if I get one ill get one with the DOS and the DOS containers upgrade for the DOS as well. Gold package with the DOS and DOS upgrade add on if I go in I go all in. Still not sure it can do anything for me that I cant do myself . How has this saved some ones butt? Other than it it makes it easier to have everything hooked up to this. You can dose with it. You can do water changes with it? I like the hands on I like dosing but other than all that what good can it do to save you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandinga Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 No definitely not necessary IMO. I run one, but in all honesty I don't use 99% of the features. After the Apex went blue screen and left me holding my $#%$ I decided relying on a computer to run my biological world may not be the best idea. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StayPuff Posted January 26, 2016 Author Share Posted January 26, 2016 No definitely not necessary IMO. I run one, but in all honesty I don't use 99% of the features. After the Apex went blue screen and left me holding my $#%$ I decided relying on a computer to run my biological world may not be the best idea. Ya I have heard this and also one guy that was dosing a error happened with the dosing and instead of one ounce it tossed in a nice 20 oz and nuked his whole tank and 10,000 worth of live stalk down the drain. These are the things that worry me. Also if you wont use it to 100% then its worthless paying 1000 bucks for it. I think ill just stick to doing it my way to where I know what I put in and I know how much water goes in and out. Also read one guy that did the water change he liked the idea of never having to do a water change come home to 70 gallons of water on his floor when the thing got a error and did not shut off. The bucket over flooded. I guess like anything if your going to have a computer run your system then you better hope to god you don't get no error Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Z Reef Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 The main safety you can add is usually from a switch or probe. My issue prior to setting up the safety switch was my skimmer going ape and overfilling my skimmate, which then flooded into the floor. I was fortunate it was only about 5-10 gals when it happened but it was a PITA to clean up. Fast forward to now: they do make stand alone skimmate lockers, but why buy those when all you need is a $5 float switch? I drilled a hole in the top of my skimmate container, put the float switch on, program controller to turn off skimmer when the float is switched. Never had a flood again. Other simple controls: high level sump, low level sump, leak detector, over temp control, pH control, salinity control, etc. Apex has more user controlled programming so make sure you verify things work before calling it good. Plus they can notify you when any parameter is met, again, preventing issues. Webcams also connect and come in handy. Long story short, buy one, helps us all sleep better at night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paratore Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 The apex has saved me from freezing my tank! I keep my frag tanks in a "fish shed" and when I do water changes I unplug the heaters to make sure they don't overheat when the water level drops. Well...this last Sunday when I did that, I forgot to plug back in the heater. 4 texts later from my Apex telling me the temperature was slowly falling, and I went outside to find that I forgot to plug them in. That is a really small thing, but it was about 40 degrees outside and even though the shed has insulation it still dropped about a degree and a half before I noticed. The tank could have froze if the apex hadn't warned me. It's also let me know when a heater had failed...in the off position. Basically the same thing happens but the heaters were plugged in and said they were on(yellow light) but they were not producing heat. I'm also at college so I see my tank about once a week or every two weeks so the apex is a must for me. Otherwise, I ran my system for months just manually doing everything. The apex just simplified stuff and gave me a huge amount of peace while I'm gone. anyways there are a couple times the apex saved my bacon in just the last 6 months. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StayPuff Posted January 26, 2016 Author Share Posted January 26, 2016 I was looking at it like being lazy kind of thing which im getting in my old age But when it boils down to it for me if you have 1 single things running everything if that 1 thing ever goes blank your [language filter] is grass. I have 3 out lets 3 things running off other plugs and connections i will never have everything shut down at once the way i have it set up. It sounds good but the one bad time something happens it over doses a major flood your talking 1000's of repairs and losses. I have a auto top off with a back up float now and i dose knowing what goes in my tank so i think im going to stick with that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paratore Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 If you can't justify the cost but want to still monitor your parameters, there are monitors out there. They just don't control anything. Such as this guy I just saw on Craigslist. http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/for/5416747340.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reefnjunkie Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 (edited) Ya I have heard this and also one guy that was dosing a error happened with the dosing and instead of one ounce it tossed in a nice 20 oz and nuked his whole tank and 10,000 worth of live stalk down the drain. These are the things that worry me. Also if you wont use it to 100% then its worthless paying 1000 bucks for it. I think ill just stick to doing it my way to where I know what I put in and I know how much water goes in and out. Also read one guy that did the water change he liked the idea of never having to do a water change come home to 70 gallons of water on his floor when the thing got a error and did not shut off. The bucket over flooded. I guess like anything if your going to have a computer run your system then you better hope to god you don't get no error Pretty sure the guy screwed up and blamed the apex-if it's coded right it works, if the user codes or creates a command it will do what that command is- no such thing as an error code (as far as I've ever known/hear do)-it's black and white but that's not the question for the thread How about being able to shut of the heater if it over heats Turn off the return pump if water is detected Turn off skimmer when return pump is off ( since the water level in the sump raises and overflow the collection cup. How about getting a text message or email for any condition you set The options are limited by you're imagination. Maybe turn your light in your house on and off when you want while you're on vacation or do it yourself from any devise. They aren't for everyone but it has made things easier for me-granted like the guy who flooded his floor, I two have made mistakes with my APEX, I just own them LOL And a back up to the APEX, a good reeling buddy Edited January 26, 2016 by reefnjunkie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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