Arsonmfg

There's definitely other options that are available in the US. Pacific Sun makes a very nice high end T5 fixture that I would say is comparable to the Sunpower. Sfiligoi still has t5 stealth fixtures floating around the US I believe. They might have lost that distrubution when AO went under though, I'm not too sure...

I think another thing that needs to be mentioned is that halides just like T5's will perform VERY different depending on the ballasts used as well as the quality of reflectors and with T5's the active cooling. You can't compare an inexpensive t5 fixture to say an ATI even if they're both using the same bulbs. We have to remember to compare apples to apples. The same can be somewhat said for led's but with all the different binning and other varaiations, optics vs reflectors... I don't have the knowledge on led's to that extent so I can't comment on the difference in that realm. I had to enlist some outside help when it came to building the "best and most useful" led's for my new addition.

Brads tank is a perfect example of inexpensive led's working very well, although would it be even better under halides supplemented by t5 or custom leds?? I question wether or not he would attempt to keep his higher end wild color morphs under the OR led's vs his custom diy stuff and would they keep those colors under the OR led's? Also what you feed and how you feed does play a big part into color and growth... I should have my diy led strip done next week so it'll be interesting to see what the addition of a few specific led's will do in my tank.

I'd like to grab the Pinpoint Salinity Monitor... PM sent

It's pretty much impossible to beat 400w Radiums supplemented by T5's or LED's... the color and growth are just too good. BUT, you have to be able to handle the heat.

This has definitely been one of the better reef programs I've seen in a long time and it's got no commercials!

It's not impossible to learn but it's definitely not as easy as you'd think. If I were you I'd go buy a 40 breeder and make the shelves. 36x18x16, pretty darn close to your dimensions, a lot less work and a whole lot cheaper than trying to build your own.

There's an excellent series that's been running on OPB called Life On The Reef, it's focus is the great barrier reef. It's definitely a great watch and educational as well. Here's a link to the upcoming showings! Tonight's episode was excellent, talked bout the reef spawning, how they're successfully killing crown of thorns starfish and a few other great subjects! http://www.opb.org/television/programs/life-on-the-reef/

Travis has them at the shop in stock I believe and he'll price match most online prices =)

Good chatting with you today! No worries, they won't be going anywhere while I'm gone.

I won't be available till Tuesday preferably Wednesday evening of next week unless you want to swing by tomorrow.

It's extremely similar! There's still frags available if you want one... For reference here's what my Westside rainbow looks like in my tank.

I'll be available Wednesday and Thursday of this week or it'll have to be next week after Tuesday... I won't be asking the wife to bag frags for people while I'm gone, it's hard enough to get her to touch the fish food in the freezer lol.

Milwaukie, about 10 min from your house!

Colony is pending pickup.

Let's make these cheap and get them out of here... Frags are $20 and $35 for the colony!

My colony is getting out of control and trying to overtake some other pieces so some major trimming was necessary. First piece is a nice mini colony over 3" $50 Frags are $30ea Frag 1 Frag 2 [/url] Frag 3

What you don't like the Facebook sellers who only post pictures of specific high dollar corals under blue leds because "that's how it looks the best" lol

Nice, I'm thinking about a blue ribbon moray for my tank.

While I agree I think the $40 monthly costs to keep the unit up and running properly could be it's demise, I can see a lot of people purchasing these initially then selling once their over the monthly costs... I'm still open minded about it and I'm excited to see how good it really is. I won't be dropping that kind of coin on something I definitely don't have a huge need for until I see some real world results.

Biggest question is will they price themselves out of the market...

From the sounds of things these guys have a laundry list of patents on the device and the technology itself so my guess is they're pricing it knowing they're not going to have any real competition in the foreseeable future.

I'll just sit back here and watch for a bit... For that kind of an investment I want to see what some first adopters have to say after they've spent some time with it and see just how accurate the unit really is. I'm not a fan of spending money on the notion of "it's amazing take our word for it" I'd rather pay a little more knowing exactly what I'm getting.

I'm more afraid of not having a wife after she comes home to see a 5'x5' tank sitting in the garage lol

I don't know but I hope the deal goes through cause I keep looking at this [language filter] tank and it's taking a hell of a lot of will power to keep me from picking it up lol.