Big Whisky Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 I've pretty much decided to purchase a Gyre-style wavemaker. It would seem that I could save over half the money by buying the Jebao, but I have heard some horror stories by way of reviews. (Quit running after a few months, etc). The Maxspect has better reviews, but is over twice the price of the Jebao. Can anyone that has experience with these units offer any reviews/advice? Please & thanks, -Breck Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlp6899 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 I would not waste your money on either one. I had a Maxspect and it failed the first month (too many moving parts to fail). I have had over 8 Jebao pumps and all failed within a year. Just my experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youcallmenny Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 (edited) I haven't used the gyre style jebao's but their regular wavemakers have been pretty solid. I have a WP10/WP25/WP60/RW4 and they all still work like champs. I've heard bad things about their gyre ripoff's though. I can't speak for the Maxspect ones. I have a used XF-150 that has a busted magnetic seal on it's rotor shaft that should be repaired in the next couple of days when the part comes in. I'll be posting a video of what it does to my flow when it goes live. Considering the very negative experience with Maxspect customer service (didn't care because warranties don't transfer and didn't seem concerned that such a crazy part of it broke) I think in the future I'll just be buying Vortech. Edited January 5, 2017 by youcallmenny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Whisky Posted January 5, 2017 Author Share Posted January 5, 2017 I haven't used the gyre style jebao's but their regular wavemakers have been pretty solid. I have a WP10/WP25/WP60/RW4 and they all still work like champs. I've heard bad things about their gyre ripoff's though. I can't speak for the Maxspect ones. I have a used XF-150 that has a busted magnetic seal on it's rotor shaft that should be repaired in the next couple of days when the part comes in. I'll be posting a video of what it does to my flow when it goes live. Considering the very negative experience with Maxspect customer service (didn't care because warranties don't transfer and didn't seem concerned that such a crazy part of it broke) I think in the future I'll just be buying Vortech. Do you mount your WPs on the back wall of the tank, pointing toward the front? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Z Reef Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 (edited) The main thing is that the maxspect will have a warranty, most have trouble claiming any warranty with Jebao. I've had pretty good luck with jebao products however, all my RWs ran for 3 years and my WPs went for 2. For the money that's not terrible. Also, not sure if you've seen but since they released the XF series, you can link 2, so they have begun selling the whole pump assembly separate from the controller ($140 for the 230 and $160 for the 250). At least your not buying the whole thing again if the pump goes out. Vortech is the same with needing wet sides replaced occasionally. This hobby deals with a very harsh environment (salt water), everything is going to fail eventually. And I'm running a used gyre 130 on my new cube, can't speak to longevity yet but we'll see. Edited January 5, 2017 by Blue Z Reef Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youcallmenny Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Do you mount your WPs on the back wall of the tank, pointing toward the front? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk One on the left wall pointing to the right, one on the right wall pointing left. The RW series is the replacement for the WP series, so I'd get the RW's if that's the route you choose. I'll be replacing the WP-25 on the left with the XF-150 Gyre in the next couple of days. I'm not sure if the RW-4 wavemaker on the right wall will be too much with the gyre but right now I'm anticipating leaving it in and dialing them both down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Whisky Posted January 5, 2017 Author Share Posted January 5, 2017 The main reason I like the Gyre, is that it will be plenty as the only source of circulation in my 75 gal tank. (Besides the return pump). I'm not a fan of having a bunch of powerheads all over the walls of the tank. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youcallmenny Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 I have a 75g display tank as well. I'm hoping the xf150 will be enough for the whole tank but I don't expect it to be. I am not a fan of using any wave maker going front to back either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Whisky Posted January 6, 2017 Author Share Posted January 6, 2017 I have a 75g display tank as well. I'm hoping the xf150 will be enough for the whole tank but I don't expect it to be. I am not a fan of using any wave maker going front to back either. Agreed. If I do go with the Gyre, I'll mount in on the left wall, pointing toward the right. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vance164 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 I'm using the gyre xf150 on a 4ft 75 gallon and currently can only run it at 40-50% any more than that is too much and it starts blowing everything all over the place. I bought a used unit off here for 125 bucks so hard to beat that. I don't know much about the cp40 reviews seemed good but from what I saw hard to get your hands on since there in court for patent infringement. I'd rather support maxspect on this anyways since they made such a different product than anyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Whisky Posted January 6, 2017 Author Share Posted January 6, 2017 I'm using the gyre xf150 on a 4ft 75 gallon and currently can only run it at 40-50% any more than that is too much and it starts blowing everything all over the place. I bought a used unit off here for 125 bucks so hard to beat that. I don't know much about the cp40 reviews seemed good but from what I saw hard to get your hands on since there in court for patent infringement. I'd rather support maxspect on this anyways since they made such a different product than anyone else. Is it your only source of circulation? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gumby Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 I have most of the WP series and RW series of the Jebaos. They vary on the longevity. Some lasting 3yrs and most 1-1/2 years. They tend to work longer on continuous flow which kind of defeat the purpose of wavemaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youcallmenny Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 I'm using the gyre xf150 on a 4ft 75 gallon and currently can only run it at 40-50% any more than that is too much and it starts blowing everything all over the place. I bought a used unit off here for 125 bucks so hard to beat that. I don't know much about the cp40 reviews seemed good but from what I saw hard to get your hands on since there in court for patent infringement. I'd rather support maxspect on this anyways since they made such a different product than anyone else. Interesting. Same size tank I've got and I really wouldn't have expected it to do the job alone. That'd be awesome if i could just take all my other pumps out completely and rely on the gyre+return for flow. Judging by some videos I've seen online, they do indeed generate a hilarious amount of water movement. I guess the new shaft for mine will be here tomorrow so I'll get some video uploaded by tomorrow night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vance164 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Is it your only source of circulation? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Other than my returns yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vance164 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Interesting. Same size tank I've got and I really wouldn't have expected it to do the job alone. That'd be awesome if i could just take all my other pumps out completely and rely on the gyre+return for flow. Judging by some videos I've seen online, they do indeed generate a hilarious amount of water movement. I guess the new shaft for mine will be here tomorrow so I'll get some video uploaded by tomorrow night.From everything I have read a single 150 should be adequate for a 6ft tank. Which is what I was originally gathering equipment for. Was kind of a selling point for ne since 6ft would require 2x mp40's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saltwater newbie Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Mp40 qd all the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paratore Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Vortech all the way. Can't beat their customer service! And the flow is good. After owning both, I will be only buying vortechs in the future Gyre had great flow but I love my vortechs haha. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowderBlue Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 I ran a single gyre 130 on my 48x24x12 for 6 months and it was plenty of flow. I now run 2 but I tend to overkill most things in this hobby where I can afford to. My initial pumps been running at 100 percent from day one, no issues and has so much coraline I can't even see any black on it. It's literally pink. I've run vortechs, I like vortechs but the gyre has much wider flow. I wouldn't skimp on 3 things Powerheads Skimmer And lights. But that's just my .02 Sent from my SM-G928V using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higher Thinking Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 I run a single XF150 on my 6 foot 180 gal. The tank is full of SPS colonies and it's definitely sufficient for the coral. I've thought about getting another one for the other side, but only because I feel like I might kick up some extra detritus. But as for coral growth, the pump is sufficient. I run it on constant mode and it surges across the tank with no problems. I also run the Jebao DC12000 for my return and it's been running over a year and I've never even opened it up since putting it online. Just order the Jebao PP4 for my little tank at the office that is supposed to arrive tomorrow. I was really considering the MP10, but that was $235 and the Jebao was $42. I wouldn't worry about Jebao's warranty. Amazon lets you add a warranty to your purchase, so for an extra $3 I have a two year warranty. I could have paid $5 instead and got a 3 year warranty, but I figured I'd be satisfied with just two years. It's a nice way to get a reliable warranty from an otherwise unreliable brand. Thanks Amazon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youcallmenny Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 (edited) As a Prime account, that's a pretty good tip. Thanks for that! I order most of my gear there because of the free shipping. edit: Ok, I got the new shaft and repaired the XF-150. It's in my tank on 50% pulse @ ~1s. I tried using just the gyre and my return outlet but the opposite side of the tank wasn't getting quite as much turbulence as I liked. I turned the RW-4 on the right side back on at 100% and am now very pleased with the overall flow pattern. Very random, no dead spots, crazy surface movement and nothing is getting blown back to the ocean. I'm glad I waited it out and repaired the unit. Definitely a major improvement over the two pumps on the left side it replaced. Edited January 7, 2017 by youcallmenny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunpeal Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 I have two jebao gyres the return pump, and 4 head dosing pump. No regrets. Dosing pump heads need occasional water flushing, but no biggie. For the price?? What more do you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninjabeaver Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 I have a xf-150 on my 75, I have it set to about 30% power surging for 4 seconds or so...the flow is pretty good, but I still get some dead spots on my sandbed. I have it mounted high on one end of the tank, the dead spots are probably due to my rock and coral placement. Very happy so far, it was used as well; and replaced three other wave makers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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