spectra Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Well let me know what you think and why...........I have my reasons but there is also that little voice in my head saying Basically a AIO or a normal tank................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Z Reef Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Sump Just went through this on my frag tank and dismantled it and drilled it. AIO limits skimmers, fuge, filter socks, and extra water volume. When I started adding acessories to make up for things it was lacking it just crowded up the tank. Keep it clean (and quiet) and leave all that "junk in the suuuuump!" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badxgillen Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Yeah, Blue Z said it very well, SUMP. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reefnjunkie Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Sump.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandinga Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 (edited) Not only sump...but HUGE sump. I envy the 500 gallon systems with a 150 gallon display. My favorite sump was oxx's...that was a thing of beauty(good job garret!) Edited October 29, 2015 by Mandinga 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The ReefBox Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Monster sumo stock!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The ReefBox Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 rock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodus Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 I use an AIO now only because of current Space restrictions, Otherwise there would be no other reason I wouldn't setup a tank without a sump, So many benefits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowderBlue Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Sump for sure if you have the ability to run one. It's cleaner, it quiter, it allows more space for bigger equipment, adds more water volume, the list goes on! Sent from my SM-G928V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeramy Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Really depends on the system you are trying to create. I am always in favor of a sump . I have also run many AIO . The sump allows you more options. If space is limited and a AIO is the answer then try and stick to the K.I.S.S. method and rely on water changes and top off manually skip the fuge and skimmers that fit a system this size are really ineffective. If you are all about the gadgets or just want to have the room for more options then a sump is really the only way to go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClark Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 I am a sump guy all the way... However, on my son's tank, kind of liking the AIO for one reason. Water on the floor.... No drilled holes in the outside of the tank, anywhere. No power off issues overflowing the sump. No out of tank water connections No worries about back siphoning. So perhaps that is one advantage. Still a sump guy but this turns out to be a safer setup for his room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandinga Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Good points guys...my office tank is a 3 gallon,and sumpless is fine...but yeah it's also skimmerless and has what appears to be a massive heater in it:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackice Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 SUMP IT......SUMP IT.......REAL GOOD!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoringDave Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Sump. But back in the day when I was a renter it was sump less for me. I had a 30ish gallon? Don't remember. For flow/skimmer and filter I used two Aquaclear 300's. In one I ran the typical sponge&carbon. In the other I used a hang on skimmer hanging on the back of a Aquaclear 300 with no lid. This way the only thing that was sticking in the tank was the Aquaclear inlet tubes. This tank also used the old school wood canopy so none of that crap was seen. IIRC CPR use to make a hang on refugium with a built in skimmer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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