ClayTheSavageFraser Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Why would only my montis be dieing? they are all looking like they are doing a slow die out. Only my montis though everything else is happy?!! Im freaking out!! There is no sign of anything as far as a residue on them. They have spots starting to bleach? One of my nice colonies is almost gone? I am seeing signs on all, my pokerstar, superman, jedi mind trick, orange, purple, oh except my green it looks fine, sunset. Hmmmmmm....anybody have this happen?(scary) Clay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgf86123 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 do you have any pics clay? pics are the easiest way to diagnose any and all problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClayTheSavageFraser Posted December 17, 2009 Author Share Posted December 17, 2009 I will get some when the light are back on. And as soon as I can get them on here. Have been having trouble posting pics. Clay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgf86123 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 photobucket is the easiest way, uplaod to them, then cut an paste the link and your in business Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CA2OR Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 amonia? nudi's? metal in your water? nitrates? PH? come on now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy-S Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 if only your monti's are being effected I would guess monti eating nudi's. Take one or two of them out and dip and swirl them if you have nudis you should be able to find one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilmca Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 if only your monti's are being effected I would guess monti eating nudi's. Take one or two of them out and dip and swirl them if you have nudis you should be able to find one. I totally agree with the Nudi's being the cause since this same thing is currently happening to me. I got a bananna wrasse and it seems to be helping but the fish can't get in all the small crevices where the Nudi's hide. check out the underside of your monti caps and around the dying part of your encrusting monti's for a small nudi that looks like the one in the picture below. If your monti's are dying fast than you might have a lot of nudi's. I had a single colony die before I found out what the problem was and it seems like i've been able to keep the numbers down with the wrasses. I also have a sixline and a melanurus that are both supposed to eat these nudi's too but of course it's dependent on each fish. I also use tweezers to remove nudi's from monti's I can remove from the tank. There are different kinds of dips you can do. check out the link below for more info. I haven't dipped any corals yet but if any of my monti's are still alive after I get back from vacation i'll be dipping them. http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2007-09/eb/index.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowpunk Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 if you can get one out that is effected, flip it over and look for eggs and nudi's. they'll usually hide well during the day. I had the issue once too. I solved it by an intensive cleaning session on all monti's then I got my little protector(melenarus wrasse). I have yet to see one in almost a year. You should google "montipora eating nudibranchs" so you have a better idea what you are looking for. There is lots of info and pictures of the damage they can do. Good luck man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impur Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Probably nudis. I can come by and look if you want. I'll bring ya some potassium permanganate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coralreefer Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 I vote for nudis also... DrMerle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewie Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 What are your CA/Alk levels? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClayTheSavageFraser Posted December 17, 2009 Author Share Posted December 17, 2009 0:Nitrates, nitrites ammonia 8.4:PH 585:CA 12: DKH Impur!! Come on over let's see if you can see anything!! Clay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impur Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 pm me or text me your address. Its gonna have to be tomorrow though, i have a work xmas party tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwcoralfarm Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 I would say Nudi's too but I also had this problem and in a frag tank it is pretty easy to see something like this and I have never seen anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siskiou Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Ah, no! I hope you can figure out what this is and save them! How about some pics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewie Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 0:Nitrates, nitrites ammonia 8.4:PH 585:CA 12: DKH Impur!! Come on over let's see if you can see anything!! Clay Are they stable @ those levels? That's pretty high. Have you tried maintaining them in the 450/10 range? Either way, make sure to check your pump impellers often. When you run CA levels over 450 the magnets on the impellers will get caked with deposits, causing premature failure if not cleaned with vinegar regularly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClayTheSavageFraser Posted January 8, 2010 Author Share Posted January 8, 2010 Yep, it's been consisitent at that level and everything has loved it! Lots of growth! I am losing all my montis!! My rainbow monti (medium colony) is dieing! I hate it!! Clay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowman Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 Clay, have your colonies been dying one at a time or all at once? Do you notice white spots on the flesh of the montis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impur Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 Clay text me your address man, i'll come over tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClayTheSavageFraser Posted January 9, 2010 Author Share Posted January 9, 2010 I think I found the problem!! My ph tester is bad!! I used a new one and my ph has been at 8.8!! Not 8.4 like it tests with the bad stuff!! Has anyone had this problem before? Now my acros and everything else is being effected!! I did a huge water change and have been trying to bring the ph down!! It's crazy!! It sucks!! I hope my corals come back!! Im so bummed!! I hate it!! Clay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonH Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 As tempting as it is - don't correct too quickly. Rapid changes are worse than bad conditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClayTheSavageFraser Posted January 9, 2010 Author Share Posted January 9, 2010 Yeah, I only did 30 gallon water change. we will see.....!!! Clay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danik Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 a ph monitor in never accurate out of the box did you use pinpoint to test/set your ph probe? if i were you i would not add any new livestock to the tank till this problem is taken care of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClayTheSavageFraser Posted January 9, 2010 Author Share Posted January 9, 2010 Im talkin about the solution not the probe. You know that red label chemical test kit. I have had the same bottle for a while and it was working fine and then over the past few weeks my montis started to die and now my frogspawn and bubble coral arent opening (which never happens) and my acros are losing there color, my lobo, and some chalice started to recede. I tested it after I got a whole new test kit. I traded for a whole system and it came with it. I tested it last night and it read 8.8 after the other stuff reads 8.4. So yeah.....:( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danik Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 so how do you add calcium to you tank? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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