goldenbasketreef Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 https://reefbuilders.com/2021/02/18/theres-another-situation-looming-regarding-wild-corals-from-indonesia/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook&fbclid=IwAR3-SjscbA0KvXp3JSHX0ysjPCKvJaHvh5ghokUD1SOI8rHgmxPlAWRwADE It is sad to say that soo we will not be seeing much of solitary / non colonial corals anymore exported from Indonesia. Whatever shipments of wild coral currently still coming from Indonesia is using 2020 export wild coral quota. When this 2020 wild coral quota done the trade for wild coral from Indonesia will no longer exist. Mariculture coral trade will resume as normal because this has been the goal since 2010 the beginning of exit strategy for the stakeholder to transition to 100% mariculture. Unfortunately 10 or so years has been passed with ignorance and the law went into effect this year. Wild coral exporters association is in communication with the government to ask for more transition time till 2024 but it doesn't look like that this will be granted given that these wild coral exporters already have some 11 years to change and choose to ignore it. As end user we should take proactive approach to build our awareness about where the coral in our closed reef coming from and also educate ourselves how we can help with the sustainability. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Times have sure changed in the last ten years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emerald525 Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 This is too bad. There could have been ways to keep it open. So what does this mean Rudy other than prices going up ? I know there are a lot of maricultured sps and zoas and torches now . Are there certain things that are going to be lost like certain fish and certain corals ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manny Tavan Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 With the availability of maricultured import, do we really need wild corals? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenbasketreef Posted February 22, 2021 Author Share Posted February 22, 2021 (edited) 19 hours ago, Emerald525 said: This is too bad. There could have been ways to keep it open. So what does this mean Rudy other than prices going up ? I know there are a lot of maricultured sps and zoas and torches now . Are there certain things that are going to be lost like certain fish and certain corals ? For marine fish only those that usually come from Hawaii. Other than that still plenty of availability from other area. The scarcecity now is because of logistic challenges with covid As far as live coral we will not see those solitary coral that took 10-20 years to grow to saleable size level like cynarina, acanthophyllia, trachyphyllia ect. Edited February 22, 2021 by goldenbasketreef 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The ReefBox Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 14 minutes ago, goldenbasketreef said: For marine fish only those that usually come from Hawaii. Other than that still plenty of availability from other area. The scarcecity now is because of logistic challenges with covid As far as live coral we will not see those solitary coral that took 10-20 years to grow to saleable size level like cynarina, acanthophyllia, trachyphyllia ect. And likely SPS and Indo torches? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenbasketreef Posted February 23, 2021 Author Share Posted February 23, 2021 SPS and Torches / Euphyllia consider a fast growing corals, so we will continue to see these corals in the trade 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertareef Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 7 hours ago, goldenbasketreef said: As far as live coral we will not see those solitary coral that took 10-20 years to grow to saleable size level like cynarina, acanthophyllia, trachyphyllia ect. I often wondered if we would ever see viable mariculture of these types of corals... seems unlikely due to that kind of maturation time line and propagation challenges sadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The ReefBox Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 1 hour ago, goldenbasketreef said: SPS and Torches / Euphyllia consider a fast growing corals, so we will continue to see these corals in the trade So Indo SPS will continue to come in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenbasketreef Posted February 23, 2021 Author Share Posted February 23, 2021 2 hours ago, The ReefBox said: So Indo SPS will continue to come in? It has never been an issue with SPS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The ReefBox Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 3 hours ago, goldenbasketreef said: It has never been an issue with SPS I only ask because the last shutdown we were not getting SPS or torch’s then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manny Tavan Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 10 minutes ago, The ReefBox said: I only ask because the last shutdown we were not getting SPS or torch’s then Previous ban was wild and maricultured corals. The new ban is wild corals only Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The ReefBox Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 6 hours ago, Manny Tavan said: Previous ban was wild and maricultured corals. The new ban is wild corals only Ah makes sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emerald525 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 So Rudy in your opinion were the wild coral exporters just not aware of the ten year time to convert to mariculture or were they hoping the law would go away ? Personally I am happy to see more maricultured corals from India. Those sps and Zoa farms are fun to see on videos. I love seeing maricultured clam farms too which actually brought the price down on those beautiful maximas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenbasketreef Posted February 23, 2021 Author Share Posted February 23, 2021 6 hours ago, The ReefBox said: Ah makes sense The first ban on wild and mariculture coral it is not involving mariculture coral initially. It was a bit complicated event at that time, still tied in to very issue now that will close wild coral trade for good. In the past all live corals exporters, wild and mariculture, in Indonesia were under one group / association where wild coral exporters were the majority by 4 to 1 in numbers. Fisheries secretary at that time known by all is Susi that enacted bold regulation to fight illegal food fishing and illegal live coral collection for aquarium trade. She initially banned the wild coral trade because there was an agreement signed in 2007/2008 by all live coral exporters to move toward 100% mariculture. The trade should come up with exit strategy to phase out wild coral and phase in involvement in mariculture abd the Indonesia government itself introducing a bill to close all wild coral and collection trade in 10 years time. So back to the first ban that initially for only wild coral trade, the association since the majority are wild coral exporters decided to use mariculture trade as bargaining tool. The association argue to the fisheries secretary that if wild coral is closed for good the mariculture trade should also be closed. Of course Secretary Susi at that time being put in that position later closed the mariculture trade also. Because of this situation mariculture companies / exporters felt being handicapped by the association quit the association and forming another association specifically for all companies that only do mariculture and export mariculture corals. These companies almost all of them which is about 16 companies all located in Bali Is. Mariculture coral has never been an issue in Indonesia from the get go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenbasketreef Posted February 23, 2021 Author Share Posted February 23, 2021 3 hours ago, Emerald525 said: So Rudy in your opinion were the wild coral exporters just not aware of the ten year time to convert to mariculture or were they hoping the law would go away ? Personally I am happy to see more maricultured corals from India. Those sps and Zoa farms are fun to see on videos. I love seeing maricultured clam farms too which actually brought the price down on those beautiful maximas. All live coral exporters in Indonesia very aware of the agreement, signed it to phase out wild coral trade and move toward 100% mariculture. It is plain blantant ignorance imo if majority still doing 100% wild coral. The wild coral exporters keep asking for more time to transition to mariculture coral trade. The latest I heard asking an extension to keep exporting wild coral till 2024. IMO 12+ years is enough of an extension plus the law that ban collection and trade of wild coral in Indonesia become effective first day of 2021. The way export coral quota set up yearly in Indonesia took into account established population of mariculture coral. What it means is whenever there is significant numbers of one specie being grown successfully the export quota of mariculture coral for this specie will replace the same number of export quota for same specie as wild collected coral. So every year the wild coral export quota has been on the declining trend because more and more species being grown as mariculture. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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