WAVES Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 Its WET! I just tap water tested my tank, TOTALLY STOKED doesnt even discribe how I feel! Leak FREE! those of you that saw my closed loop system, realize what an accomplishment this is. So, no photos yet, once I have rock Ill do a full photo array (I took LOTS of pictures) right now just wanted to share my excitement. Now that I know Im leak free, I need to push the system against the wall and drill my floor drain. I gotta do this before I put rock in, because Ill have to slide the system over to drill through the tile floor. System Info: 48w x 30d x 25t Starfire Aquarium Obsessed trimless Eurobraced custom overflow/closed loop intake tank. Custom furniture with hydrolic flip top lid, doors on 3 sides, stain matched to match my kitchen. Flow: Sump with Dart, 3 outputs, one through a 1/4hp PCI chiller. Closed loop with Dart on a Ocean motion ( www.oceansmotions.com ) all through the bottom of the tank, with ball valve for easy water changes directly into floor drain. Wavysea rotation device on center front return Lights: Dual 430 (HQI) Radiums in Lumenmax fixtures (SLS ballast) 4 HO T5, 2 actinic URI lamps, 2 geisman aquablue+ (new SLS reflectors) PFO moonlights H&S A150 recirc skimmer, skimmer collection is into a vessel that will shut off air to the skimmer when full, this way I can drain it easy (ball valve) directly down the floor drain without risk of over skimming and draining the tank (thus topping off with kalk water) Korallin reactor PM kalk reactor on RO/DI auto top off Ozone dosed into a "ozone reactor" then directly into a Carbon reactor, then a phos reactor. Aquacontroller III Pro, controlling everything drip pan with floor drain for any issues, and for easy water changes and skimmate drainage. and tons of other "features" Ill need photos to describe. Web cam hopefully to come in the future too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsoz Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 WOW! I think is the only thing that I can say. I guess owning a fish store has it's perks! I would love to see it when it is finally set up with rock! dsoz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uhuru Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 You probably don't remember me but I saw your setup at the shop when you were still working on the plumbing. That is one of the coolest setups I've ever seen! The plumbing is insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reefgeek84 Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 Its a little over done on the plumbing...Just messing with you Joel. It is a very impressive set up. I bet it feels awesome to finally get this set up, Cause I have been admiring your tank for the months that it has been in the shop. Can not wait to see the rock work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
izzypop Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 congrats joel. your patience on this project is inspiring. saw it completed and very custom and well done for an under the stand sump. thanks for sharing and AO starphire tanks are very nice. i like build threads so keep it coming. always something to learn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impur Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 I'm waiting for pics! This sounds like one sweet setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pledosophy Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 About freaking time Homie! That's tight. I can't wait to see your other little "features". Should be cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reef165 Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 I dont beleave anything without pics. we want pics!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael7979 Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 (worthless) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reef165 Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 what is an ozone reactor? do you have a link or pic, hey weight whare are the pics? its been long enouph!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquid Hobby Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 Now, if you had just kept it in the shop for all of us to gaze at... Congrats on splashing the tank! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pledosophy Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 tease! :D :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impur Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 Come on Joel, pics!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
180Brandy Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 (worthless) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAVES Posted June 15, 2007 Author Share Posted June 15, 2007 Ill edit this later with discriptions, for now you just get photos. ROCK Rock movie: www.wavesreef.com/photos/rockmovie.mov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAVES Posted June 16, 2007 Author Share Posted June 16, 2007 how bout them apples eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 Looks great. Are you planning to paint/somehow the PVC returns on the bottom? And when are we all coming to your house to see it?(laugh) -Sol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coker98 Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 Wow, This is an incredible build and you must have great resources seeing as you own a fish store. This is going to be a great tank. Great job Joel. I know we will see the best and the rarest in this beauty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 Wow. I'm jealous! That rock is gorgeous. Nice tattoo :-) here's my most recent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powdertang05 Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 1 question why a close loop from the bottom why not form the back?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pledosophy Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 how bout them apples eh? I guess it's alright. (laugh) (laugh) (laugh) (whistle) (whistle) Thanks looks pretty awesome Joel. Love the rock work. Unless your going to hide the white PVC returns with rock, you might consider painting them. I painted mine purple with the PVC primer and they blend in pretty nicely in the spots where you can see them through the rock. after the coraline fills in it should be cool. Why the grates on the overflow box? Excuse my ignorance. Your plumbing gives me nightmares. That must have been . . . fun. (laugh) Thanks for sharing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAVES Posted June 27, 2007 Author Share Posted June 27, 2007 Kevin, I am actually switching out the PVC for Oceans Motions Omni Flex (www.oceansmotions.com) I may use some epoxy and sand (coat with epoxy then sprinkle on sand). They wont be visable,,, one way or another Are you talking about the grates on the front of the overflow? That would be to keep out snails and fish? most tanks have teeth,, Mine has grates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAVES Posted June 27, 2007 Author Share Posted June 27, 2007 I first purchased my old tank back in 2003, it was an acrylic tank with a standard 4” or so overflow box. I made tons of mods to it trying to get the flow I wanted. This led to other problems, micro bubbles, water noise etc. Quick stats: Aquarium Obsessed 150 gallon glass tank, custom overflow, euro braced, starfire 3 sides 48 x 30 x 25h Custom oak furniture, doors on 3 sides stand and canopy, flip top canopy lid, 36” tall stand. Closed loop with Dart and OM all through the bottom of the tank Dart on return pump partially through 1/4hp PCI chiller returned through Wavysea 2 by 430w (HQI) radiums on SLS Reefoptics 1 plus 4 by 54w T5 URI acitinic with SLS new generation reflectors H&S A150 skimmer Koralin reactor Aquacontroller III Pro with PX-1000 Ozone through ozone reactor PM kalk reactor The Tank and Closed loop: I was sick and tired of cleaning coralline off acrylic so I wanted glass. I also wanted to have the tank tight up against the wall, so I had to come up with a way to do the closed loop through the bottom of the tank. I like sand so I knew I couldn’t simply put bulkheads with screens in the bottom of the tank, I didn’t want to have riser tubes with screens because that looked tacky and it was going to be hard to cover them, yet make them accessible to clean. The result was a closed loop intake design integrated into my overflow box. The overflow box is made of 3 chambers in a row. The outside two have 4 x 12 inch laser drilled square holes in the sides of the box. These square holes have acrylic covers that are perforated with 1/8 holes. In the bottom of these two side chambers are 1.5” bulkheads for the closed loop intakes. This way there is less suction (so I don’t suck in fish and anemones) yet it is clean looking and the covers are easily removed for cleaning. The center chamber is a normal overflow box, it has two 1.5” bulkheads in it for drainage to the sump. Water can enter this box through the front (surface skimming) or water can travel through the acrylic intake screens and go up and over the glass partition between the CL intakes, and the sump drain. The intake join together into a 2” pipe and enter the Dart. The 1.5” output goes into a 4 way Oceans Motions device that alternates flow from the left side to the right side. The outputs are up through the bottom. The overflow drain pipes I used a modified herbie type of drain silencer. One thing I chose to do was use gate valves to control water into my CA reactor, ozone reactor, and skimmer. So far this has been very very effective. I can fine tune the affluent rate on the reactor very well with a 1” gate valve. As you can see in this photo, the herbie overflow in the front, and the closed loop plumbing in the back: in the bottom of the stand there is an acrylic drip pan with a drain. The closed loop has a true union ball valve used to attach some vinyl tubing for water changes. This way I can simply attach the tube to the bulkhead drain, screw on the union and open the ball valve. I had to drill through 7 inches of materials to get into the crawlspace. I simply used acrylic solvent to fix the bulkhead into the hole. This way I didn’t need to put a bulkhead “nut” on. I wanted to run Ozone but I wanted to do it 100% safely. To do this I decided to run a ozone reactor. So I used the old style 2littlefishes reactor with the “nipples” on top to run ozone into ceramic bio media through a air stone in the bottom. This ozone/water solution then travels directly into another Kent phos reactor filled with carbon, this will remove any residual ozone. Finally it runs through a phos reactor with ferric hydroxide prior to returning to the sump. The ozone is also controlled through my ACIIIPRO. I also have a DIY auto top off system directly feed from my RO/DI unit. I know this is highly NOT recommended thus why I have multiple fail safes. First there are 2 float switches in series, this way if one of them gets stuck the system wont continue to fill. I was also planning to drain my skimmate down the drain but after hearing Steve Weasts story about his skimmer overacting and running his sump dry I knew I had to come up with a different system. What I decided to do is run my skimmate into a DIY resevour that has a float switch in it. Instead of creating back pressure on the skimmer like the beckets with collection containers mine shuts off the air supply to the skimmer. An airline is connected to this collection continer from outside, then the air travels through the float switch and into the skimmer. When it fills up with skimmate the float switch shuts off the air supply to the skimmer. This box then has a ball valve drain that is directly over the floor drain. A flip of the valve and the skimmate is drained. I built a probe holding system for the controller probes as well. I don’t have final pictures of it as the first round failed. I used a polypro material and it turns out not to be “floaty” enough to hold up the probes. I have since built an acrylic box to be the float with the probes attached to the sides of it with O rings. The first round photos: Furniture, lights, and tank: As you can see I built some aluminum racks to hold the lights. I wanted the T5’s to be at the same height as the halides, I also didn’t want the halides to be mounted directly onto the sound proofing material so they are mounted with a 1” gap using the aluminum. I have since changed the back, I have added 2 more fans. I now run 4 fans in the stand and canopy. I found some fans that are incredible, they are 72cfm at only 14db, they have a controller that controls 4 fans so no custom wiring is necessary. The stand and canopy are both sound proofed. I used a closed cell sound proofing foam, covered by MLV (mass loaded vinyl) Rock: the tank is mostly filled with Vavau rock, Im able to get this rock in very large pieces with makes for better aquascaping in my opinion. I have one 54 pounder that is an “island” I plan on having anemones, ricordia etc on this island. This way they wont likely walk over onto the main structure and bother the acropora. I will not be having any zoas, mushrooms (other than rics) and may have a small patch of GSP on another island like a piece of branching rock. I have added a couple more branching rocks in the middle since the photos. Im also changing out all the plumbing and loc-line with Oceans Motions Omni Flex nozzles. More photos to come of the skimmer and skimmate collection container etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAVES Posted June 27, 2007 Author Share Posted June 27, 2007 webcam (still needs tuning) www.wavesreef.com/webcam.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAVES Posted June 27, 2007 Author Share Posted June 27, 2007 I almost forgot... SAND! Im not a BB fan..... (cosmetically speaking) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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