Hoss Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 I just tested three alk test kits side by side: API, Red Sea, and Salifert. Here are the results: Red Sea: 8.7 Salifert: 10.9 API: 13.5 So there you have it. Three test kits, three VERY different results, however, only the Salifert test came with a standard of 7.2 to check the test against, and it did indeed check out, meaning that if the standard is ACTUALLY 7.2, then only the salifert kit is testing anywhere close to the actual value. In the interest of accuracy, I tested the red sea with the salifert standard and it was indeed reading about 2 points too low. I would have tested the API as well but I ran out of the standard solution, and besides, I already know that the API test is junk since it already helped me crash my tank(clap) I have a second salifert test coming in the mail, and when it arrives I will test both saliferts side by side to see if they are consistent with each other. Stay tuned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impur Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Interesting. How old are all the test kits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted February 11, 2010 Author Share Posted February 11, 2010 I bought the API test about a month ago, red sea last weekend, and salifert just arrived in the mail yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impur Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Crazy. I've always had decent luck with API alk and calcium tests. Usually right on par with Salifert. Of course there is also that bad batch of Salifert out there..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciao Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Is there anywhere where you can buy standards to test against??? I want to know how off my alk and calcium tests are and then adjust for them when I get the reading. Does anybody know if the tests are linear as in if your API tests reads 10 on ALK for a 7.2 standard you can therefore deduct 2.8 off all your readings in the future to get your correct value? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badguitarist Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 Impur- "Crazy. I've always had decent luck with API alk and calcium tests. Usually right on par with Salifert. Of course there is also that bad batch of Salifert out there....." I too have always had good luck with API. When I worked at a pet store we tested them against salifert tests and nothing seemed too far off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reefnjunkie Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 Impur- "Crazy. I've always had decent luck with API alk and calcium tests. Usually right on par with Salifert. Of course there is also that bad batch of Salifert out there....." I too have always had good luck with API. When I worked at a pet store we tested them against salifert tests and nothing seemed too far off. That surprises me, I have had the same poor luck with API and as a result I bash that brand when anyone asks "what test kits are best" PO4 and No3 were the same inconsistency for me-against Salifert and Elos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 Might try more than one test per kit, and might also have someone else try each one too. I've fooled myself with "operator error" more than once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted February 15, 2010 Author Share Posted February 15, 2010 Well I got my second Salifert test kit, and both Salifert tests read the same. I think my number one problem with the API test is that you're counting drops, and there's no way to guarantee that each drop will be the same volume as the last, and the drops appear to come out easier when the bottle is full vs when it is half empty. Also, if you use the test as directed you only get results in whole numbers. I much prefer the titration style tests that you can read to 2 decimal points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerv503 Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 I go with Salifert test kit, Red Sea and API sucks! Have you use Elos testing kit brand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoseCityAquarium Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 Well I got my second Salifert test kit' date=' and both Salifert tests read the same. I think my number one problem with the API test is that you're counting drops, and there's no way to guarantee that each drop will be the same volume as the last, and the drops appear to come out easier when the bottle is full vs when it is half empty. Also, if you use the test as directed you only get results in whole numbers. I much prefer the titration style tests that you can read to 2 decimal points.[/quote'] It is also important when you are using the drops, to hold the bottle perfectly vertical. If the bottle is at an angle, the test will not be accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bswe22 Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 So which test kits are the best? If it is the Salifert, were do you order them from? Thanks Bryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bswe22 Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 What about the tst kits from Seachem? Are they any good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algae Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 Good Advice! I like to check my readings with a second kit if things seem wierd or just to verify. It is also important when you are using the drops' date=' to hold the bottle perfectly vertical. If the bottle is at an angle, the test will not be accurate.[/quote'] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerv503 Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 I would not recommend SeaChem there test kit are not accurate and inconvenience. The test kit is a tray with multiple cups in it. You have to scoop the right amount of reagent for each of the cup section. The hardest part is reading your results!! Not recommended. I like Salifert but if you consider spending alittle more for test kits, i recommend Elos testing kits! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undrtkr_00 Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 Most of the LFS have either Elos or Salifert test kits (or both). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted February 17, 2010 Author Share Posted February 17, 2010 It is also important when you are using the drops' date=' to hold the bottle perfectly vertical. If the bottle is at an angle, the test will not be accurate.[/quote'] See, that is my problem with them right there. You have to hold it just perfectly, and squeeze it with just the right pressure, and not shake the drop off early by mistake, and not accidentally drip a little bit in when you are removing the dropper...there are just too many margins for error. I often wonder if there is a way to use the API test as a titration style test to get a more accurate result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadReefer Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 API, RedSea, and Seachem are all I have used and they have worked great. EVERYONE should know that ANY test kit can be bad. Someone on the WMAS site recently was talking about how his API test was so far off. He had assumed that Salifert was better because it costs more. After testing with multiple other test kiits, the API was right on and the Salifert was off. Higher cost doesn't equal better product. I'll buy cheap and compare results with other test kits. Any test that works well and is well taken care of should give many great results. But if it does not test well, I would take it back to where I purchased it and demand a refund. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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