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@reefnjunkie- yes I do not quarantine my new arrivals. I dip coral and place in tank and I drip fish and place in tank. Is it a gamble? sometimes as I showed by having a clown die within a couple days of purchase. But like I posted earlier, it was because I couldn't get the meds he needed and had to order it online as none of the LFS carried it, along with thinking he was just skinny from being in the store and I would fatten him up. Stupid mistake and why you should only buy fish that are plump. If in doubt don't buy!! If I suspect a fish is sick, I immediately, if I don't know the disease, google to find out what most likely it has and treat only for that. The less meds the better I always say, as they are rough on the poor buggers. I have been very successful with the way I treat and like most of us, when I turn on the lights I look around and try to find all my fishes etc. I have learned a lot as I will tell you and rarely if ever have had to use my hospital tank. KNOCK ON WOOD!! When I first started keeping fish 15 yrs ago, I bought a 10 gal tank and proceeded to stock the crap out of it and killed them all. It was one of the saddest things I have witnessed. I was at a lose at what to do and watched slowly as one by one they succumbed to disease. After that I vowed to learn, mind you this was before internet was everywhere, so I went down to the library and grabbed every fish book I could find and have been successful at keeping fish since that time. Its a hard lesson that I hope our friend here Mitrillion, with our help, will avoid. Do I make mistakes? yup, I just told everyone my first freshwater mistake and then my first saltwater mistake. Will I make more, yup and it will always be hard on animal lovers like me. @MiTrillion- carbon is only needed to remove meds like eclipse522 said, if you buy a HOB filter like I recommended earlier it should come with little packages of carbon. Just pour that into your filter pad when ready to remove meds and yes I would monitor for a few days at least before putting back into display tank, or you will have to fight to fish him back out and start the process all over again. whew don't blame you guys if you don't read all that haha!!

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Something I noticed about our new forum and tapatalk is nobody knows where anyone is located at anymore. Do we just have to ask everyone now or what? I liked when I could see a classified ad and look at their name and see location back in the day:( heck lazy guys like me like to commute close to home haha! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Jmanrow is spot on with a qt. However, I use a hospital tank and have never had a fish die with proper meds. I lost my first clown due to intestinal parasites within 24 hrs because I didn't have proper meds which was prazipro. That was my lesson learned.. Saltwater fish take a nose dive quick and you need to make sure u can treat them quickly. As far as cycle, never had a problem because I treat them not quarantine and they are not in my hospital tank longer than what is recommended for whatever disease they have. Which at max would be 2 weeks. With such a small amount of water however and depending on size of fish you might need to consider a sponge or something that contains some beneficial bacteria. Again, u only are treating a fish or two and just need to chek for ammonia/nitrates. With natural evaporation and possibly a small water change, you will within a week or so be adding fresh water to tank, which I have found was more than enough to never see any traces of ammonia etc. Here is all the chemicals I believe is needed to pretty much cover ur bases on anytype of disease you likely to encounter. hope this helps and gives you more options. It all depends on your needs and what u feel is the best. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

true, one thing I know about this hobby is that the unexpected will and does happen. Makes you

Either a qt or a hospital tank, but you need to have one. You cannot treat fish in the main tank as most meds are harmful to inverts and coral. For 50 bucks you can have a complete 10 gal setup that will work perfect for a hospital tank. All you need is tank, cheap hob filter, heater, thermometer, that's it. I believe walmart sells a complete setup like that for around 50. I leave tank completely bare and can set it up quickly if needs be. I use basic IO salt, not reef salt and cover the tank with a towel or whatnot to make it as stress free as I can. Then you treat with whatever you think you need to treat the fish for. If it requires diff meds you can add carbon to HOB filter to filter out chemicals and treat with other meds. Trust me, a 10 gal is all most people need as most don't have HUGE fish like sharks etc. and less water means less meds and money being spent. DONT forget carbon takes meds out of water, so make sure that the cheap HOB filter you buy doesn't have the filters with the carbon already in the filter. Look for the ones that you must manually add the carbon into the filter. Or just buy some filter floss etc and don't worry about their filters, but that seems dumb when you can easily find HOB without the carbon in the filter. I believe mine is a whisper cheap $12-15 HOB that is perfect. my two cents

I should add to be prepared too. When I started out with a saltwater tank. I lost a clownfish to worms in 24hrs because I didn't have the right meds for it. No lfs had the right stuff and my other clown who also became affected lasted long enough for the meds to arrive in the mail and to treat. Of course the one I lost was $60 and the one I saved was $15. Go figure:( Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I dont necessarily qt my new arrivals. I look an make sure they are healthy and never had a huge bio load even when I had African cichlids. I do have a hospital tank that I will set up if a fish is ill and treat it in a small environment (saves on money etc.) personally, after reading this story I think it is stress on the fish. Maybe too many diff type of fish being aggressive towards each other. Ick in itself is in most tanks and fish have a natural immunity to it unless they stress and some are obviously more likely to develop illnesses ala tangs/discus. My 2 cents Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Ok well I experimented with two palys that I couldn't move the rock out of the tank. I injected one at the base with straight lemon juice and one it it's mouth. I'm curious to see what happens. I am thinking very much about just taken out one of these big rocks that has a ton on them and just letting it dry out of tank. I know that's way too much to try and kill in the tank. I also am thinking about just asking one of the local fish stores too about just switching rocks. I like the brown with green mouth palys and want to keep those. Just the neon and seafoam ones I'm done with, they grow everywhere Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Oh love those yumas by the way an hopefully I can snag on from u next time we meet up. Thanks again by the way. I will post picks of te frags I got from ya some of which are already growing:) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Thanks Robert! Little bit later today I am goin to try an grab two little rocks I have with them on it and try to manual remove them out of water. I thought about scrapping them off the best I can and also squirting a little lemon juice on the spot that they scrap off of to hopefully keep them from coming back. I have to be careful though as both these little rocks have corals I want to keep. I will try and be surgical with this procedure:crossfingers: Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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Ok, so after thinking about it. I can move the acan frag but what do I do with all these wayward palys and mushrooms that float around the tank and attach to places you don't want them. I hate killing things and also am afraid of poisoning myself or my tank. Need some advice please?? What happens if palytoxin is released in the tank? Is it like an anemone and can crash your tank or just what? I have read a ton and everything leads to either taken rocks out of tank and removing them by various methods or trying to nuke them like pest. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Thanks:) I have a piece of clean rubble I can put it on:) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I agree, however I spent 400+ on a nice t5 light fixture made here in the old USA from Finnex and had problems like always after warranty. Now I have Chinese cob lights. Well say though good customer service with Finnex and cheap repair parts. But that should tell you something lol Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

http://successfulreefkeeping.com/learn/about-corals/what-your-coral-needs/ I'm sure you all know about this site or hate it or love it:) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Sorry for pic quality, only have my phone for pics. Also, what I forgot to add is, should I move acan off that rock with those Palys as they are growing like crazy as always. There was like two on that rock and now six in a couple weeks. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

also, what is my acan doing with that pinched white side? Only had him for a couple weeks and want him to survive:) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Kilz can't beat it.. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

So back in the day I bought two big electric orange hermits from TPA. Mysteriously after a week or so, one died and them another not shorty after. It was a mystery and today I was thinking on it. I'm pretty sure my bicolor gramma picked them to death. That turkey which we named Margaret cho was feisty like a African cichlid. Look like one too. Now I never saw it attack a crab and it committed suicide shortly after. But if you ever are wondering about a mysterious invert death. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Yup:) I'm trying the peppermint route. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Thanks guys, I'm starting to see them all around my tank, dang things. Little ones to a few big ones. I thought about the peppermint shrimp route. Most I can nuke, just a few that I worry about like that little bugger. I do not currently have any shrimps, if I get a peppermint, can I get any other shrimps for a 75 gal. I would like another scarlet eventually or a fire shrimp? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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you can see that little bugger at bottom of pic Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk