reefgeek84

Then you missed the point of the payment and what its cause is for, regardless of what you "think" its for

 

You ever hear the saying from Mark Twain? You should look it up.

 

I know what the money goes for...however, I choose not to be involved in a lot of these things that the club puts on , because I have other priorities in life...so I do not get the benefits from that, so I no reason to pay. It to me is like paying for a gym membership, but not ever going and still paying for just having it there...

 

Sorry you can be all for the club, but do not try to make me feel guilty and everyone else feel guilty for not paying...that is BS and that mentality will put this club back into the ground, like it was once before.

ok, not worth 20 bucks...If I did not sell it on here, I could sell it on the numerous other sites...just like to do it local. The only reason I paid for it in the first place, was because I was told my thoughts and ideas, held little to no water because I was not a paying member...So I bought a membership to prove my point that even if I was a member it did not matter what I thought, the powers at be still made their own communists decisions. This is why I will no longer be renewing the membership, despite their being different people in power now...

Pay your dues' date=' and you get 100 message slots again. [/quote']

 

50 extra messages is not worth 30 bucks...lol...

reefgeek....i believe it's because you are not a premium member anymore...there's no PNWMAS sign under your username.

 

Ahh, good call...I will bet that is the case...Thanks.

I have about 50lbs of LR...it is has been in the dark for some time, so it does not have a ton of color, but it is super live...wanting 3 bucks a pound for it...Let me know if you are interested.

I believe the limit on messages is currently 50. Try deleting a couple more and see if it fixes it.

 

-Sol

 

good call, but it changed....

 

Why is it no longer 100 total? it was 100....

I have a baby blue tang and have had no issues with him, or any of my other fish for that matter, I have a cleaner shrimp and I really think that helps...

Reefgeek have you tried deleting the messages you have sent? Check that and see it that helps.

 

Yes, my box started at 64, I deleted 12 of my sent messages and it still says full...I have 52 total inbox and sent folder, so I should have 48 spaces left...so it is an issue with the site.

is anyone else having an issue with their mailbox? Mine says it is a 100% full, when I only have messages, I deleted it down from 64 and it still says it is full. I can not send a PM to anyone (to get help) because it says it is to full...Can someone help me out here and is anyone else having this issue?

To the top.

To the top...

Worth the drive! I got a frag of this Meteor Shower. That is one sweet coral! Thanks for the frag Brandon. Very nice deal.

 

No problem, thanks for coming out...I am very glad that you are happy with it.

Alright buddy. I think the OP got what information he wanted and hopefully he will continue his reasearch to find what really works and why it works. And you can continue to start arguements and continue your personal attacks on someone else.

Not attacking,not letting you shut down valid ideas of what works and when you are called on some of your stuff you try and play the high road game...but I will make sure and tell everyone that because a UV did not work for you, that they should not buy one or get rid of their...and that copper and hypo is a great way to get rid of ich, they can just kill their reef in order to do so, instead of getting a cleaner shrimp, feeding vitamin rich foods, and running some sort uv or ozone to keep it bay. (laugh)

 

This has gone a bit into OT...so I will digress.

Oh goodness, now it went from three pages of people throwing suggestions and others debating them to you attacking a persons charactor. I find replying to you very easy as you just throw out uneducated random information.

 

First, there is a cure for ick, OH WAIT, theres TWO! Copper and hyposalinity are both PROVEN cures to ick. Heres the science as I like to backup what I say with something substantial.

"By lowering the salinity, you will also be lowering the osmotic pressure of the water. The parasites NEED high osmotic pressure to convert saline water into freshwater. All marine animals need freshwater as we do [these parasites are considered marine animals as well, BTW]. They just convert it differently, usually via their tissues. Reduce this necessary pressure and the ich will die. As a higher life form, the fish will do fine with this short-term treatment." <--- kills all ich. No matter what stage of life they are in nor where they are at. ie, substraite/fish/LR.

 

Anyways, good luck to the OP. Most if not all of what ive posted you can simply research yourself and find substantial and in-dept information, as its science and not opinion.

 

Not sure if you read the post, but it says a reef safe solution...I am not dumping copper in my reef tank and not dropping the salinity in my reef tank...so I made a mistake in my statement, there is no reef safe cure all for ich, considering the two you mentioned will not do well in a reef tank...so I guess that is uneducated DOH!

Also I think the fact that I just sold a UV speaks wonders on how affective its been seen to be. Atleast for me that is.

Sorry you are not the end all and be all of what works in this hobby, what has worked for you will not work for other people... I would expect you to know that there are many ways to skin cat in this hobby...but I guess since you sold a UV, that other people should as well.

Ok here we go.. First things first. Lets say the 'good guys(whatever you want to imply they are, inverts, hitchhikers, filter feeders whatever) outnumber the 'bad guys' in the water column 2:1. I think we can all agree its prolly more. In that case, when you run water through a UV you are essentially trying to kill the free floaters. Since good outnumbers bad 2:1 you are killing twice as much good as bad. And thats just using logic, in reality theres nothing that it shows it kills anything.

 

If there are any questions about UV and what not, there are many educated people on RC that will provide the science to backup what I am saying.

 

Wow, super informative... I do not care what they say for the most part, this subject is just like any other subject in this hobby, everyone thinks there way is correct...Same with Bare bottom vs. DSB, Halide vs. T-5...I can find you educated people to argue each of those points with lots of science, so you find all the educated people you want to back up your theory and I can do the same if I wish, but again I have seen what works and that is what matters to me. Does it kill some good stuff yeah it does, does it effect the tank, I do not think so. Maybe we should not use skimmers, cause it take out the good nutrients that help color up corals (thus peoples corals being washed out)...all you have done this post is beat a dead horse and in a way put people down, because they have not met your standards of getting rid of ich, but like I stated, there is really no cure right now and what people have offered as suggestions to help, all you have done is ridiculed them and said it is not a cure, but a band aide...so you come up with cure and let us know!

I disagree with the UV thing, there is nothing to show that it kills more beneficial stuff, I ran one and my tank was very successful with...ozone is even more effective at killing things and lots of people run it on there tank, Travis at Upscales runs it, I know Joel runs it on his home tank...we have all seen Travis' tank and Joel knows what he is doing, so this whole "it kills a whole bunch of beneficial stuff", I think is an incorrect statement, but I guess I just go by what a tank looks like and not what people seem to think about equipment and what it may or may not do to a system ...

 

As for the comment that it is not a cure...correct, but really there are no cures (and this thread is showing that) and you beating this whole dead horse on finding a cure...There is really not one and pretty much ich is always present it depends on if the fish is sick enough to contract it. Just like a cold, if you are unhealthy and your immune system does not work well you will get a cold easier then someone else, does this mean that taking vitamin C is not a good idea cause it is not a cure cause it only boosts your immune system, no but it is a preventive thing that helps your body fight it off. People with AIDS usually die of a common cold or the flu, because the immune system can not fight it. Same thing here, if you keep your fish healthy (i.e. feeding good foods with vitamins) they have alot less chance of getting ich. If you find a true cure, patent cause you will make alot of money...

Another thing people can do is add UV or Ozone and it will take care of the ich as well...

Yeah' date=' but that'd mean facing 26 again... not sure I have it in me[/quote']

 

I have moved...I am in beaverton now...About 10mins up washington sq. (10 mins with out traffic)...Just let me know if you decide you want a piece...Thanks.

I knew I should have grabbed a frag of that Lemonade when I was there...

Well I can still frag some...

ok, so I got some better pics of what I have for sale...

Purple Lemonade Monti

Burning Field Cypastrea

Still have all this, minus the 24" VHO bulbs...Let me know if you are interested or have any other questions.

Still up for grabs...This is an awesome thing for carbon, phosphate remover and other media for a tank.

Ozone, if you want to take the time to set it up correctly, I.E. being able to run the out put of the UV water through carbon.

 

If not, then just run a UV.

I am not sure how much phosban is but Phoslock is Ferrick Oxide and is only 7 bucks for 150 grams and 49.00 for 1135 grams...so say 55.00 bucks with shipping. so 1135grams/150grams = 7.5 (so this would be total months it would last swapping out 150grams) so call it 8 months. So ($)55/8 (months) = $6.8, call it 7 bucks a month. That is way better then 20 a month and you are able to swap out once a month like you are doing now... Here is a link to where you can get it for 48.00 bucks...

 

http://www.customaquatic.com/customaquatic/searchhomekeyresult5.asp?offset=30