reefgeek84 Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Does anybody have thoughts on these? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R-3 Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 skimmerwhisperer has one for $100 I think on Reef Frontiers. He says its a pretty sweet skimmer and he is very hard to please when it comes to skimmers. I think the only thing wrong with that one was that it had a crack in the collection cup, he fixed it perfectly though. Contact him that would be a good deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reefgeek84 Posted August 16, 2006 Author Share Posted August 16, 2006 skimmerwhisperer has one for $100 I think on Reef Frontiers. He says its a pretty sweet skimmer and he is very hard to please when it comes to skimmers. I think the only thing wrong with that one was that it had a crack in the collection cup' date=' he fixed it perfectly though. Contact him that would be a good deal.[/quote'] yeah that is the one I am looking at...Just wondering if it is a good skimmer...but I think I will just get it, it is a recirculating one and that would be really nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siskiou Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Did you buy it? I'm also looking for a bigger skimmer and have seen that one. Nothing much to find about it on the forums, though, and I don't want to save at the wrong end... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reefgeek84 Posted August 16, 2006 Author Share Posted August 16, 2006 Did you buy it? I'm also looking for a bigger skimmer and have seen that one. Nothing much to find about it on the forums, though, and I don't want to save at the wrong end... Nope I did not he would not go down on price so it was 100 bucks and 25-30 ship it...I can get the newer model at drsfosterssmith.com for 150 bucks and there is nothing wrong with it. But I think I am going to go that route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siskiou Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Did you find any reviews for it anywhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reefgeek84 Posted August 16, 2006 Author Share Posted August 16, 2006 Nope...but really to me a skimmer is a skimmer for the most part. The guy that is selling it really likes it. Plus when I bought my coralife one, everyone talked crap about it, but it works really well so I am sure that it will do well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nu2reef-n Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 I think Marinedepot sells those skimmers. You find some info over there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nu2reef-n Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 Sorry reefgeek. That skimmer is for sale at Drs. Foster and Smith. Heres the linky http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Product/Prod_Display.cfm?pcatid=13911&Bc=1&N=2004+113771 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reefgeek84 Posted August 17, 2006 Author Share Posted August 17, 2006 Sorry reefgeek. That skimmer is for sale at Drs. Foster and Smith. Heres the linky http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Product/Prod_Display.cfm?pcatid=13911&Bc=1&N=2004+113771 yeah, thanks...that is why I am not going to get it from him...I would rather buy it from the good drs. and have it be brand new to me for the same price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCR Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 The PC rc100 and rc200 are killer skimmers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R-3 Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 Yeah I hooked up my 1000 in a container last night in freshwater just to test it and it was still making bubbles!! They are prices well too. Also the Octopus NW200 is a nice one if you dont have room for the recirc. Later Ryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reefgeek84 Posted August 17, 2006 Author Share Posted August 17, 2006 recircs are so dam expensive. trying to find the best deal on one...now the terminator is suppose to be a recric...but I am not sure how it works, they talk about a sumpless kit, but I am not sure if you need that or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impur Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 Easy fix, drill a couple holes, couple uniseals and a NW pump you got a DIY recirc! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reefgeek84 Posted August 17, 2006 Author Share Posted August 17, 2006 Easy fix' date=' drill a couple holes, couple uniseals and a NW pump you got a DIY recirc![/quote'] So then you have the water from the tank drain into the extra pump on the skimmer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siskiou Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 Easy fix' date=' drill a couple holes, couple uniseals and a NW pump you got a DIY recirc![/quote'] Drill holes where? And I'll have to look up uniseals! Some day I'll master the english language (am German)! What NW pump would you recommend? -Susanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 Two, in the sides of a 'standard' countercurrent skimmer. One towards the bottom, the other just above the midpoint. Uniseals Wait for Eheim's needlewheel pump that comes out this December. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siskiou Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 Two, in the sides of a 'standard' countercurrent skimmer. One towards the bottom, the other just above the midpoint. Uniseals Wait for Eheim's needlewheel pump that comes out this December. Thanks! The uniseals sound great! Do they actually work instead of regular bulkheads on a drilled tank? Is the eheim NW a completely new pump, or can you stick the impellar into their regular pumps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 I've never seen Uniseals used as bulkheads, and I've read postings discouraging their use there. I think they aren't 100% reliable under very heavy loads (like the pressure behind a couple-hundred gallons of water). The Eheim NW pump is supposed to be similar in size/capacity to the 1250, though slightly different internally -- as well as the obvious impeller difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siskiou Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 So, if you wanted to turn this skimmer http://a1272.g.akamai.net/7/1272/1121/20051025232909/www.drsfostersmith.com/images/Categoryimages/normal/p_22925_31212P.jpg into a recirc, would you just have to substitute a NW pump, or does it still need drilling? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reefgeek84 Posted August 17, 2006 Author Share Posted August 17, 2006 So' date=' if you wanted to turn this skimmer [url']http://a1272.g.akamai.net/7/1272/1121/20051025232909/www.drsfostersmith.com/images/Categoryimages/normal/p_22925_31212P.jpg[/url] into a recirc, would you just have to substitute a NW pump, or does it still need drilling? yeah this is my quesiton... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impur Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 That skimmer looks like its a recirc now. Water goes in that clear tube on the right, the pump just sucks in water, mixes it with air and chops up the air then pushes it back into the skimmer. Recirc skimmers use a pump to pump from the skimmer back into the skimmer. There are a few ways to accomplish this, 1) directly feed the skimmer from the overflow, or 2) simply have a feed pump pump water to the skimmer(this is the DIY example i was referring to). A NW pump recirculates the water from the bottom of the skimmer, mixes with air, and pumps back to the bottom of the skimmer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reefgeek84 Posted August 17, 2006 Author Share Posted August 17, 2006 So maybe I am confused what a recric skimmer is... I thought a skimmer that was recirc could be put inline from the drain of the tank and process all water coming into the sump, am I misunderstanding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impur Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 No, that is one of the ways they can be setup. In that case, the drain from the display drains into the skimmer, there is at least 1 NW pump that sucks in water from the bottom of the skimmer, injects air, mixes and pushes the water back into the skimmer toward the bottom. The bubbles collect proteins and rise to the collection cup like all skimmers. As the skimmer fills up with water, the excess water obviously drains into the sump. The key is that the water in the skimmer is recirculated by the pump taking water from the bottom and pushing it back into the skimmer. With a low flow thru these skimmers, that water is skimmed and reskimmed for better efficiency. Recirculating design is where the water within the skimmer passes through the venturi several times before it flows back in to the tank. As a result the water has several opportunities to come into contact with bubbles before flowing back so theoretically more dissolved material can be removed. Hope that makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reefgeek84 Posted August 17, 2006 Author Share Posted August 17, 2006 No, that is one of the ways they can be setup. In that case, the drain from the display drains into the skimmer, there is at least 1 NW pump that sucks in water from the bottom of the skimmer, injects air, mixes and pushes the water back into the skimmer toward the bottom. The bubbles collect proteins and rise to the collection cup like all skimmers. As the skimmer fills up with water, the excess water obviously drains into the sump. The key is that the water in the skimmer is recirculated by the pump taking water from the bottom and pushing it back into the skimmer. With a low flow thru these skimmers, that water is skimmed and reskimmed for better efficiency. Hope that makes sense. So is it possible to set this one up to have the water from the main display drain into it? That is what I would like to accomplish...I am sorry I am ignorant on this subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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