siskiou Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 I just discovered some tiny orangey colored bugs on one of my SPS that has been doing so well! The last few days it's PE has been down and now I know why. Help! How do I treat this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael7979 Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 Go talk to a vet and see if they will give you some intercepter. (Medicine for dogs) If that doesn't work it can be found online. I know Ryan at Advanced Aquarium use to sell it so you might want to try some of the LFS, but I don't know how well that will work. Someone might even have some to sell. But I can not remember the dosing amounts. But you take out carbon and turn off skimmer, put in the intercepter and let it stay in the tank for 24 hrs. Then do a real good water change and add carbon and turn skimmer back on. Some say that one large does will work and other will tell you 3 smaller doses is best. Personal choice based on your comfort level. You might/will lose hermits, shrimps, and other inverts. I lost some but not all. HTH some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyles Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 I have some... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siskiou Posted December 16, 2007 Author Share Posted December 16, 2007 Are there any natural predators? I have a few hermits and a Sally Lightfoot in the 120G and am pretty sure I won't be able to get them all out. I don't fancy killing things. Can I get the three acros I have out and treat them in a QT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyles Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 yes, I would recommend treating in QT, if you do be prepared to do it for sometime, I tried a week and they just get reinfected, I ultimately ended up treating my main display with hermits , shrimp and crabs in. All lived and did fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyles Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 As a side note it whiped out my pod population, I just had to get the pods reseeded and I was fine. If you need some Interceptor let me know, the alternative is TMPCC dip, you should be dipping everything with TMPCC as it comes in if you dont QT... just a tip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siskiou Posted December 16, 2007 Author Share Posted December 16, 2007 How much for the interceptor? And how would I best rig up the QT? I'm worried about water quality and lights. It would be a 10G tank and I don't really have an appropriate light for that to keep acros alive. The 250w MH pendant (for the 60G cube that's not quite set up) would be overkill, and pc lighting wouldn't be good enough. Any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyles Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 You got PM regarding treating and pill price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsoz Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 I'm worried about water quality and lights. pc lighting wouldn't be good enough. I may not be enough for LONG TERM growth, but would it be enough for short term SURVIVAL??? If the corals can survive, then they can recover. They may brown out and look bad, but if they live, there is hope. The other thought, is PC enough to have them last until you can get something better? dsoz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siskiou Posted December 16, 2007 Author Share Posted December 16, 2007 Problem is, I can't get anything better. My fish account is tapped out. In fact, I owe my husband already. He loaned my some of his allowance! Money is tight around here. But I've read that I can treat fro 6 hours in a bucket with a power head, and then return the corals to the main tank after a rinse. So I'll probably do it this way, unless someone tells me there is a natural predator around that's worth trying. Nothing that "only" eats red bugs and nothing else, though. I read someone tried clown gobies... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyles Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 By the way the only thing that eats them consistantly is dragon faced pipe fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siskiou Posted December 16, 2007 Author Share Posted December 16, 2007 Yeah. They seem to be hard to find and hard to keep, as far as I've read. Anyone know a place that has one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impur Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 Here is how i beat em http://www.pnwmas.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1285&highlight=aefw+red+bugs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siskiou Posted December 16, 2007 Author Share Posted December 16, 2007 Hey Miles, did you use interceptor for the red bugs? I worry about keeping up the water quality in the quarantine tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impur Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 No, i had terrible luck using interceptor. I do weekly WCs, so it wasn't a big deal to mix up an extra 5 gal for my QT tank each week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siskiou Posted December 17, 2007 Author Share Posted December 17, 2007 Wanna tell me what happened with the interceptor? Just so I can be prepared... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impur Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 Killed all my snails, hermits, and pods. I got a terrible cyano problem afterward that took about 6 months to beat, finally using chemiclean. And after all the hassle and deaths, i got the redbugs again 2 months later even though i didn't add anything additional to the tank. You can see how much more effective TMPCC is on the redbugs. A 10min dip kills all of them on the coral. With interceptor you will be treating for 6-8 hours, and even then you run a risk of some living as I experienced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siskiou Posted December 18, 2007 Author Share Posted December 18, 2007 What's TMPCC stand for again? In all my reading I've only come across Interceptor mentioned for the RB. I'm not going to treat the whole tank, but use the interceptor in a 10G quarantine. But I'm also looking for something to dip any future corals before adding them to the tank. Something to kill RB, and the dreaded type of flatworm (can't think of their name right now). Would TMPPC take care of that? And where could I get some? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impur Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 Yes, i used TMPCC to beat the redbugs and AEFW. TMPCC = Tropic Marin Pro Coral Cure. Best bet to find it is off the web. No, i got it at fragfarmer.com. Every single new coral i acquire gets dipped in 3-5X solution of TMPCC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siskiou Posted December 18, 2007 Author Share Posted December 18, 2007 Isn't TMPCC just iodine? Or are there other ingredients to make that brand more effective than others? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAVES Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 Intercepter doesnt kill snails, how much did you dose? Intercepter will ONLY harm crustaceans (sp?). Let me know if you need anything, I have intercepter, a different coral dip, as well as TMPCC on the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impur Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 I think if it was just iodine that the 5-10X concentration dips of Lugol's i tried would have worked. It didn't, in fact i don't think that killed a single redbug. I don't know exactly what is in the TMPCC. I can't find the ingredients anywhere. But I can say without doubt that iodine is not the only ingredient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impur Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 Intercepter doesnt kill snails, how much did you dose? Intercepter will ONLY harm crustaceans (sp?). Let me know if you need anything, I have intercepter, a different coral dip, as well as TMPCC on the way. Tell that to my snails (laugh) I dosed a quarter of the pill for large dogs. BTW, my cleaner shrimp made it through the interceptor treatment fine. Go figure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mbeef61 Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 does anyone know if sea chem reef dip is equevilant to TMPCC? has anyone had success with reef dip by seachem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAVES Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 my TMPCC came in today, finally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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