half-astronaut Posted July 6, 2010 Share Posted July 6, 2010 They shipped my box of corals from my old tank to Phoenix and damaged it to the point of leaking , so they won't ship it here (funny, the box made it all the way from Jakarta to Minneapolis fine). Therefore, I need to figure out the value of these items. None are rare by any stretch of the imagination, but I've had them for four years; all are colonies, most are huge. I'll write what I think they would cost if you could find specimens that size in a shop, tell me if I'm far off... 15" Devil's hand leather $180 10" Toadstool $140 9" Green M.Cap $120 volleyball sized shrub of a purple whip gorgonian $300 20"tall 10" circumference 15 branched, tan candelabra gorgonian $200 30+ head green/purple frogspawn $300 20+ head metallic green frogspawn $200 6 various Ricordea $150 8 various mushrooms $120 25 orange zoas $50 20 green dragon eyed zoas $40 Pink bubble coral $100 Orange scolymia $100 Shipping costs $400 Total $2400 Are there any websites known for having large colonies for sale? I may have to validate these prices somehow. Do you think its fair to consider adding shipping charges to the value? If I'm trying to get a replacement value established it doesn't seem unreasonable to assume some shipping costs, right? Ethical and philosophical commentary welcome on that one as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReeFit Posted July 6, 2010 Share Posted July 6, 2010 try http://www.liveaquaria.com/ they tend to have sizing prices on alot of their coral selection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pledosophy Posted July 6, 2010 Share Posted July 6, 2010 I would go higher on several of the prices. 9" green monti cap- $100 easy, maybe more. A volleyball sized shrub of purple whip gorgonia, I would add a lot to that, you won't find one to validate the price on line, it is that rare to get a large colony. I have been growing my frag out for 4 years and I have 9 stalks now and it is under a foot tall. The 6" frag was $40. 20"tall 10" circumference 15 branched, tan candelabra gorgonian, I would double that, but honestly you won't find one that size for sale. 30+ head green/purple frogspawn, I would go $10 a head. 6 various Ricordea $80, stores here sell them for $25 a ric. 25 orange zoas $50, that is a bit high to me. Depends on the zoa. Depends on the size,a pink bubble, I'd pay a lot for. I've never seen one for sale. Orange scolymia, $50? Serious? Did you say brown and the size of a quarter? If it is a scoly depending on size easily 4x as much. To get large colonies you are going to have to special order, and special ship, I would include all charges you will incur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClayTheSavageFraser Posted July 6, 2010 Share Posted July 6, 2010 I would double all of the prices!! What are they going to do with the corals? I have people in AZ that might be able to go the airport and pick these up and see what is salvageable? If you even want that? I don't know, it's a long shot!! So, So sorry!! I hope that you can make them pay for the destruction!!! I hate this!! Clay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
half-astronaut Posted July 6, 2010 Author Share Posted July 6, 2010 They're toast. I flew in on the fourth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNanoReef Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 If you need i could give you a store based price certification. you need to ask them what level of price cert they require. your prices are low on many of those. think replacement cost! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
half-astronaut Posted July 8, 2010 Author Share Posted July 8, 2010 I'd appreciate that. I'll probably swing by today, I need to get the ball rolling on this since it'll take a while to be reimbursed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reefboy Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 I would definitely say double most if not all your prices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
half-astronaut Posted July 9, 2010 Author Share Posted July 9, 2010 Updated some prices, added shipping. The max is $3300 per bag. Should I just claim it? Reefboy, Nano (sorry, I should remember your name- did the red mantis live?) could you really sell pieces like this for that cash, including shipping? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reefnjunkie Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 even if the prices I see have been doubled-which I cant imagine they have been-Double them again-You are talking aquacultured stuff, what if what you replace it with dies???? Then douldble it one more time or just claim the maximum- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowman Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 Take the max. You have to consider that you grew them for however long it took to grow them, plus pain and suffering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AC-k3v Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 I'll be very surprised if they give you anything. Almost all shipping carriers will not cover perishables. I've been told to go screw by FedEx, UPS, and Hawaiian Airlines even with shipping insurance. Kevin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
half-astronaut Posted July 9, 2010 Author Share Posted July 9, 2010 They are saying it was their fault because they never should have accepted it as checked baggage. Not that they damaged it or sent it to the wrong place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AC-k3v Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 They are saying it was their fault because they never should have accepted it as checked baggage. Not that they damaged it or sent it to the wrong place. I was just looking through my thread subscriptions and didn't realize you replied... How did you make out? If they admit fault, run with it! Best of luck, Kevin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxx155 Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Make sure to write down all names, what they said, and get things signed if possible. CYA as much as possible, someone down the line will attempt to fight this, but if you have all paperwork and names admitting fault then they won't win. If it comes down to it you just threaten to go to court (or hire a lawyer for $500 and add it to the bill) and they will most likely pay out to get rid of you. But, if you have no proof of who said what and the insurance coverage than you have nothing to win with. I once shipped a tank with UPS and it arrived broken. I asked for insurance, but it never got insured because I guess something didn't get marked right. Anyway, I threatened to close my account with UPS and they paid up (which they should have). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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