huskerduck Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 My daughter and her idiot of a boyfriend went to a party and she drank some, stopped and waited 3 hours knowing she was the "taxi" (I guess she missed the part about 4 hours and weight dependent)They left and her boyfriend pulled the E-Brake at 50 mph then released it when he realized he was one IQ point from being brain dead. Never the less he totalled her $8k Jetta she had just purchased and to this day still owes 3K on. Well she lost her license obviously after failing the breathilizer and a year and a half later still is without license and theyre making her install a breathilizer in the car and have had her going to classes that supposedly cost hundreds and hundreds of dollars but denied her deferment. Is this normal? I dont know, what I do know was when I was 21, 95% of the people I knew were driving around hammered and when they got DUI/DWIs it was basically a slap on the hand for first offense. Therefore everyone did it and didnt worry much, I know they stiffend up the laws in the last couple decades but........ Anyway just curious what Oregons first offense DUI fines and loss of license usually is, anyone familiar or had a DUI recently? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twogirls Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Oregon does not mess around with this stuff anymore. I had friends get them when I was younger like 10 years ago and it was not that big a thing. But now I know a couple people that got them and it was real bad. Had a friend that got one last year and did 45 days in jail, lost his lisence for a year and all siad and done after classes and fines dropped about 5 k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huskerduck Posted March 3, 2010 Author Share Posted March 3, 2010 Oregon does not mess around with this stuff anymore. I had friends get them when I was younger like 10 years ago and it was not that big a thing. But now I know a couple people that got them and it was real bad. Had a friend that got one last year and did 45 days in jail' date=' lost his lisence for a year and all siad and done after classes and fines dropped about 5 k[/quote']Wow yeah she lost her License for 18 month, had to attend 12 classes @$60 a pop, take 3 Pee tests at $60 a pop, 1K fine and DMV sent her a letter saying she has to install a breathilizer in her vehicle before she can drive again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USCG CWO Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 This page may answer some of your questions. http://www.oregonduii.com/ I am giving training to a bunch of local LEO's this morning. I will ask and see what they say. Shane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coralreefer Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 I am not unsympathetic to your daughter, but her idiot of a boyfriend could have caused her to total her car while killing someone...no, they don't mess around anymore with this...I have a friend who got a DUI last year and it [language filter] near wiped him out financially... We won't speak to how lucky I've been over the years...however, I no longer drink and drive AT ALL, don't want to preach...she has got to do her penance... DrMerle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CA2OR Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Re: Calling all drunks! DUI question imo they should do way more than 1 year suspension and some stupid classes.....i am serious. dnf with me on this....i have valid reasons Sent from my Droid using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huskerduck Posted March 3, 2010 Author Share Posted March 3, 2010 I am not unsympathetic to your daughter, but her idiot of a boyfriend could have caused her to total her car while killing someone...no, they don't mess around anymore with this...I have a friend who got a DUI last year and it [language filter] near wiped him out financially... We won't speak to how lucky I've been over the years...however, I no longer drink and drive AT ALL, don't want to preach...she has got to do her penance... DrMerle Being a minor (19 at the time) she didnt even have to blow a .80. She has no sympathy from me either, lets just say her boyfriend and I have not spoke in the year and a half since the incident and he has not been allowed within a mile of me. You're right his little dramatic display could have killed people no doubt, she took on a concrete barrier coming out of west salem on Hwy 22 100 yards before its ending. He ( the moron) had zero consequence due to his actions. As to speaking of my luck over the years, Im right there with you! I havent drove intoxicated in decades thanks to my non drinking wifes chaffuering expertise. There was a time in my life where I doubt anyone I knew was driving sober and the area I live now I can guarentee on any givin night, 90% of the vehicles on these gravel roads out here are controlled by people way beyond the limit. It seems the reason she lost her license for 1-1/2 years is because the cop took her license at the incident and said "you wont be needing this anymore" and her court date was 6 months later. This I didnt now until her Mom just informed me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CA2OR Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Huskerduck, I am sorry for all you guys are going through. Unfortunately this is a lesson she is being taught the hard way, but it could have been worse....what if there was an accident and someone in the other vehical died....that would be a something she would have to live with for the rest of her life....if you take that into consideration....the year and a half is a slap on the wrist....I say this because I lost my little brother to a DUI and the kid driver that killed him was 20 by 2 days. I know that his life has made a complete 180 and I hear he has some serious issues as he knew my brother, but I also know that nobody I knows really cares about him or his issues. SOMETIMES....when I think really hard about where he is in his life now....I get a HINT of sorrow or pity felt for him....but then I remember what he did and the cost of his decisions and I quickly remember that I don't care. It was said once that "for every action there is a reaction" but I think saying it like it is , is better....there are consequences to your actions and associations". Seems that good judgement is a tough lesson to learn...trust me....I too am a former bad decision maker...and I, to this day deal with the consequences for my decisions....12 years after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowpunk Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 I know four people now that have got DUI's in the last 3 years. Two of them were Commercial Drivers and they don't play around with them at all. No way to get diversion for them. The other two have both got diversion no problem but they were both pulled over for it. No accident was charged to their record or anything. That may make the difference right their. A good boyfriend would be helping to pay those fines since he's the idiot that pulled the brake. This type of thing is exactly why I don't drink at all. I have a very addictive personality and I get hooked on things and just can't give them up. If I ever drank I think I would be in the slammer in no time. So no drinking for me EVER! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huskerduck Posted March 3, 2010 Author Share Posted March 3, 2010 Huskerduck' date=' I am sorry for all you guys are going through. Unfortunately this is a lesson she is being taught the hard way, but it could have been worse....what if there was an accident and someone in the other vehical died....that would be a something she would have to live with for the rest of her life....if you take that into consideration....the year and a half is a slap on the wrist....I say this because I lost my little brother to a DUI and the kid driver that killed him was 20 by 2 days. I know that his life has made a complete 180 and I hear he has some serious issues as he knew my brother, but I also know that nobody I knows really cares about him or his issues. SOMETIMES....when I think really hard about where he is in his life now....I get a HINT of sorrow or pity felt for him....but then I remember what he did and the cost of his decisions and I quickly remember that I don't care.[/quote']Yeah, Im really not going through anything, granted it has put her way behind in getting a good start on life but she gets it and lucky enough lives close to where she is going to school and has became a frequent Bus rider. I only asked others experiences out of curiosity not knowing anyone thats had a DUI in decades, atleast here in Oregon. She was supposed to get her license back yesterday I was informed but couldnt because she still needs 4 more classes and cant afford the In car Breathylizer so she will probably go another 6 months being a student. The really weird thing is, the in car Breathylizers are a joke if you really think about them, if you had to blow in them at every stop light then yes, they would be legit but my wife was telling me about her brother had one in his car and just got others to blow in it, missing the whole point in the first place. Talking to a long time friend who had a DWI back in the midwest, he stated them taking his license actually turned him into an alcholic out of boredom from parking him with nothing to do and feeling sorry for himself about how bad it messed up his life by losing his job and on and on. I guess I had never thought of that aspect. The punishment actually intensifies some peoples drinking problems. Weird how some minds work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huskerduck Posted March 3, 2010 Author Share Posted March 3, 2010 I know four people now that have got DUI's in the last 3 years. Two of them were Commercial Drivers and they don't play around with them at all. No way to get diversion for them. The other two have both got diversion no problem but they were both pulled over for it. No accident was charged to their record or anything. That may make the difference right their. A good boyfriend would be helping to pay those fines since he's the idiot that pulled the brake. This type of thing is exactly why I don't drink at all. I have a very addictive personality and I get hooked on things and just can't give them up. If I ever drank I think I would be in the slammer in no time. So no drinking for me EVER! Thats what my friend was back in the Midwest, he was an owner operator and got a DUI and it was over for him, he lives in nowheresville and is now a definite full blown alchy. Its a shame really, he's the type that would give you his home and live in his truck if you were down on your luck. Now he's toast, probably wont live another year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fpd4308 Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Re: Calling all drunks! DUI question Something has to be missing here. First in Oregon a first offense duii is only a 90 suspension period unless you refuse the breathalyzer then it would be a year. Secondly first offense duii are usually allowed diversion and I have never seen a first time offender be required to install a breathalyzer in thier car. Was she also charged with some level of assault for injuries resulting from the wreck? Was she on parole/ probation for some prior alcohol related offense? Just doesn't add up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharoleb Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Breathalyzer for one year after completing diversion is the new law now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huskerduck Posted March 3, 2010 Author Share Posted March 3, 2010 Something has to be missing here. First in Oregon a first offense duii is only a 90 suspension period unless you refuse the breathalyzer then it would be a year. Secondly first offense duii are usually allowed diversion and I have never seen a first time offender be required to install a breathalyzer in thier car. Was she also charged with some level of assault for injuries resulting from the wreck? Was she on parole/ probation for some prior alcohol related offense? Just doesn't add up.Nope, first offense, only breathaylizer ever taken and wasnt taken at the accident, they actually took her to the Polk Co. sherriffs office and administered the test because she passed all the sobriaty tests but he still smelled booze. This is after he had taken her license saying " theyre going to take this anyway, so I will just keep it". This is before they even performed a breathaylizer or anything, she still has not seen her license since mid October 08. They did NOT grant her diversion, supposedly this judge ( Salem?) has it out for female minors because the same day my daughter was denied diversion another female minor on a first offense also recieved 21 days in jail and another female first offense was not granted diversion as well. Im guessing it was example day in court. Breathaylizer in the car is MANDANTORY for people that DID NOT get diversion is what the DMV stated to me after I called out of curiosity just now. We're all created equal, depending who we are I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 So she's a minor? Or was, at the time? That does change things; here in WA the rules are much stricter and the punishments more severe than for adults. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClayTheSavageFraser Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 DANG!! BUDDY!! I AM SO SORRY!! That judge is not very nice!! She needed a good attorney!! You can never tread lightly on stuff in oregon, expect the worst and prepare for it!! Again I am so sorry!! I got a duii and totally messed everything I could up with it! I ended up shelling out close to 25,000.00 and all in all 6 months in jail!! I am so glad that was years ago. Clay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandinga Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 Hopefully this will turn out to be a good thing for her. Maybe she will look back on this and say "man, I am so thankful that this changed me..." As others have said, this could have ended up much worse. I'm not gonna play the "what if" card...the what if's pertaining to drunken driving are obvious, we hear about them everyday. Blaming the system/boyfriend doesn't help her. Stewing over what he did is only going to create a chasm in your life, his and ...moving on and growing from this means forgiving him for being an idiot and HELPING him not be an idiot. I promise you that quarantining yourself from him will not mend what has been broken. Good LUCK! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huskerduck Posted March 4, 2010 Author Share Posted March 4, 2010 So she's a minor? Or was' date=' at the time? That does change things; here in WA the rules are much stricter and the punishments more severe than for adults.[/quote']Yep she was a minor, thus getting a DUI in the first place. Had she been an adult she would have been legal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huskerduck Posted March 4, 2010 Author Share Posted March 4, 2010 DANG!! BUDDY!! I AM SO SORRY!! That judge is not very nice!! She needed a good attorney!! You can never tread lightly on stuff in oregon, expect the worst and prepare for it!! Again I am so sorry!! I got a duii and totally messed everything I could up with it! I ended up shelling out close to 25,000.00 and all in all 6 months in jail!! I am so glad that was years ago. Clay Ouch, 25K? plus 6 months in jail. Yikes Back in the midwest my wifes brother has had multiple DWIs starting decades ago and he still gets slapped with 1 month work release, fine, 90 day type sentences and Im guessing hes on his 4th or 5th by now but weirdly enough they drop off your record after so many years making a 5th his 3rd type scenerio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huskerduck Posted March 4, 2010 Author Share Posted March 4, 2010 Blaming the system/boyfriend doesn't help her. Stewing over what he did is only going to create a chasm in your life, his and ...moving on and growing from this means forgiving him for being an idiot and HELPING him not be an idiot. I promise you that quarantining yourself from him will not mend what has been broken. Good LUCK! Nobody has blamed the system that I know of, I was just curious as to others experiences, I always hear of these people getting 90 days, and basically a slap on the hand and was curious why some pay thousands and arent allowed to drive for a year and a half. Driving drunk is driving drunk you would think especially when the person blows the lowest amount, now if someone blows a 5th of Jack Daniels into the breathalyzer I would see a difference. my daughter is 5' tall, maybe a buck and a few pennies in weight, robitussian probably makes her intoxicated. Kids will be kids and if you're going to jack someone, I would think an adult should be the one smart enough to know better. As far as her boyfriend goes, lets just say hes done alot more than pull her E-Brake and caused this fiasco, the list has several items on it that warrant his safety far from my reach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwcoralfarm Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 I too have had a DUI, (lesson learned) and I too can say that that actually sounds like she got off pretty light. I got completely screwed for refusing to blow, I wasn't rude about it, I just didn't know the law. I lost my license for 2 years, plus a blow and go for 1 year after and sr22 insurance on top of it for 2 more years. This is after about 15,000.00 total cost. I didn't get in a wreck or anything, and had only had 2 beers (SERIOUSLY) they say legal limit 0.08 in Washington but at a lass I had to take the prosecutor came in and said that they don't care what you blow, if they feel like you acted drunk or anything they will give you one anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwcoralfarm Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 Well at least she is OK, that's the important part. Now just try to get rid of him before she isn't! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reefcam Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 why is she still dating him??? that part gets me... be done with the dip ship and move on... plenty of fish in the sea!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danik Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 alcohol ruins lives in every way. sorry to hear this Mark. my small brother got a DUI from drinking two sparks, cops made him walk home he walked for 3 hours then i wanted to kick his behind.(enforcer) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twitterbait Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 I spent 2 years in Siberia. if you get caught DUI you may not live through the process. The police over there will beat you bloody and leave you on the side of the road for being dumb enough to get caught. We also knew a few folks who were found frozen to death in the winter because they passed out drunk. it sounds like a bad punishment but trust me, it could be much worse. i don't think her boyfriend would have made it through the next day alive if it was my daughter. you may want to seek legal punishment for him if you can. good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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