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On March 17, 2017 at 9:53 PM, PowderBlue said:

300 doll hairs?! Holy smokes. Totally does look like the thug of the tank haha

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Woah! That's a steep price! 

1 hour ago, TheClark said:

Ah, so sad, sorry to hear it.  

Sometimes that happens when moving a tank.  Not sure what the cause is, there can be so many.  One that comes to mind... Allot of people recommend tossing the sand when moving an existing setup.  It gets old and nasty, and the move gets it stirred up.

I would hesitate on cooking all the rock if this was an existing system and you are trying to save coral.  If you are starting over though it's a great idea.

If you want to ask someone in your area to coral babysit you may save quite a bit of stuff.  @stylaster and @Saltwater newbie saved allot of my coral when I had a big die off.

Good luck!

 

 

 

Oh my bad, I miscommunicated, I'm not cooking the rock, I'm cooking the sand. The rock, I'm gonna let that sit at around 80 degrees and let the rot happen. 

 

If I could legitimitely save some acros and others I would be really happy! 

On May 25, 2016 at 4:08 PM, badxgillen said:

What is also bothersome is that this can happen with other fish too, one day that dwarf angel that was a model citizen gets a taste for high end zoas and its not fun and games any more. This guy has been with clams and coral for years and only the last week or two has he found these lifeforms so delectable. This hobby sometimes.

 

Lexinverts dropped off a trap so I will get things started tonight when I have some time to get into the tank more, right now I have the clam covered with a couple large 8 inch decoy nets.

Angels are well known to be model citizens before suddenly getting a taste for lps/zoas/gorgonians. Other corals should be fine, I hear.

I don't know if this is still a problem,

 

but this sounds like something that can be temporarily solved with a turf scrubber. If you can use it to outcompete the bryopsis, you might have a chance to remove the bryopsis for good. If you had insane growth in your scrubber, that would be a sign that some nutrients are out of control.

 

Have you checked your iron levels? Those being high could also cause algae booms.

Sooo, I recently purchased a 120 gallon fully set up tank, with several square feet of acros, montiporas, and a bunch of zoas and softies. While dismantling I noticed a broken piece of montipora hiding under rock with what looked like brown slime. I didn't think too much into it. 5 days later everything except some softies and acros are melted and gone. 2 more days later and I wasn't able to save softies. The acros have highly bleached, and will too probably die soon. As evidenced by the post date, I've been losing a lot of sleep over this. At the moment the plan is to cure all the live rock, bake the sand, attempt to save the acros (with perhaps some iodine dips), and start anew. I have the acros out and in a tank with heating and circulation, but not gonna go after some coral baby sitters because I am worried that this plague will spread to other people's tanks.  

 

Pretty darn sad now...

:(

 

Will post picks of sadness and death if any of you are interested D:

9 hours ago, PowderBlue said:

 

Probably 6 to 7 pounds, red and green entrusting sps, I paid more for just the frag. 40 bucks for rock and sps, needs to go today! I'm in Oregon city most the zoas have been scraped off

 

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Noooooo! If I had seen this I would have gotten it asap! I'm in need of replacements after newly bought tank experienced all the corals melting. 

27 minutes ago, Zoolander said:

There's plenty of algae given away on here so you shouldn't have an issue there. You may also see if somebody can try and save your acros in their own water. 

Once your tank is cycled I have a couple of SPS frags I can give you to help with the restart. 

I will make sure to look around for the algae. Also, thanks a bunch for all the support! As you can see, I've been losing a lot of sleep over this.

On March 27, 2017 at 9:21 PM, milesmiles902 said:

Also, I think if you come across any corals you want to keep. It wouldn't hurt to throw in some activated carbon. It sounds like the the water has been sitting stagnant for a while.

I was curious, what were you storing your corals in? There are some things you can do to mediate them for quite a while. From a glance, I wasn't sure if they still were at their house, in buckets or what?

I was keeping them in the original water of the tank I got. I brought them all home, kept them with their original lighting, albeit in a somewhat cooler environment, but in stagnant water (big mistakes I know, but expected to set it back up in 2 days, not a week!). Looking back on it, I realized that this wasn't just rot. When we were dismantling the guys tank I noticed a small piece of broken montipora that we threw away had brown jelly stuff on it. I accidentally facilitated a disease outbreak by stressing out the corals. I've been reading and pretty much read that brown jelly is the fastest disease you can lose a tank full of coral to. 

 

At this rate, I'm gonna start anew. I will cure the guy's live rock, hope some of the acropora survives (99% chance it won't), bake all of the sand at 550 degrees, and start anew.

If I can speed up the cycling well enough I might be able to make it to the April 15 meeting to pick up some nice corals to restart the tank. I'm thinking sps and softies only as I intend to keep some angels. 

I guess this stuff happens every now and then :(

 

Oh, and on the other hand, I'm gonna be in need of some macroalgae, if anybody has some they can share. If not I'll just have to buy some.

I'm wondering if montiporas covered in a layer of slimy rot still have a chance of surviving? I highly doubt it, but, would be nice if there was a way to save them.

I am hoping at least my softies and the acroporas survive, but I seriously am losing hope.

 

@Zoolander I have fragged as much as I can, but it's sort of hazy what's too far gona to frag and attempt to rescue.

Purchased a full setup 120 gallon tank with montiporas, acroporas, several softies, and some chalices and zoas on Monday. Was planning to get it setup by Wednesday, annnd proceeded to come down with the flu. It's Monday and the tank is still not set up. Have hopefully saved some acroporas and softies, but definitely lost all my montiporas (several square feet of them!) and all my chalices and zoas (which just melted away!).

Now I'm ultra sad. Didn't think I was going to need someone to look after my corals, now I've got the remaining survivors safe and sound but, as mentioned, super sad because lost most if not potentially everything. 

Will post some depressing pictures of dying corals later. 

 

Just wanted to rant a little.

As beautiful as they are,

 

I have an emperor angel coming in soon, and I've heard they love the taste of Zoas.

On March 24, 2017 at 6:01 AM, HenryLimpet said:

Hello all, I recently acquired a Derasa & Maxima Clams and my Tang and Butterfly fish are harassing them. The Derasa has moved in to a small abalone shell and is doing ok. But anywhere I put the Maxima it is getting moved or tipped over. Anyone have any suggestion on protection them?

Thanks Kelly

If the fish won't stop picking on them I can always take them off of your hands ;P

Got any pictures?

Would love to help but currently don't have any set up tanks. In the process of setting back up a 120 (will be done today or tomorrow, but needs some time to settle all the death), and another 2 120s in next few weeks.

Wouldn't it be interesting to try to build a refrigerated unit connected to a feeder that would allow us to feed cooled food to our tanks while away? That way if you have to feed, say, shrimp, you won't need to worry about it spoiling.

Heat, bulb replacements and energy savings are the main reasons I switched the LED lights. Whenever I look at my old halide sitting in the closet it looks like an old model T.

 

Better equipment pays for itself. Switching to dc power heads and return pump next week. Technology is changing the way we do reef keeping.

Yeah, I bet. There's a lot of inefficient technologies out there that are being replaced quickly.

Older lightbulbs used to waste 95% of the electricity that flowed through them as heat, and now we're getting to the point where we're making lights many times more efficient.

Unlikely that you'll be able to keep them, as they are planktonic, but you can always try. It would be interesting to try, but there is no established procedure or technique to breeding them. You'll have to do a lot of research about this crab and figure out whether you can sort of invent a makeshift environment for them.

Is it worth getting while it's on sale? Because I honestly don't want to drop cash on something that's just hyped up.

 

What do yoy guys think? Have any of you gotten a cerebra yet?

I buy all of my glass through an online company in Vancouver called Next day glass. I have also had them make custom mirrors for my bathroom.

Looked into them. Unfortunately they don't have glass up to the dimensions I need. I need 120", they max at 96"

When I broke down my reef I said I wouldn't set up another tank u till I had room for a 400 gallon shark tank. I desperately want a Epaulette shark, in a thousand gallons you could have a pair! Sounds like you're on the right track with the frag tank and a shark tank; have you considered having the thousand gallon and a hundred gallon reef tank? Then you get the best of both worlds without worrying about the Sharks getting stung or eating all your inverts. Have you seen the shark tanks with live plants growing in them?

No, I unfortunately have not seen the shark tanks with live plants in them. That sounds fascinating! I have even considered growing mangroves but the only thing holding me back is how they take salt and magnesium out of the water.

 

You could keep a papua new guinea epaulette in a much smaller tank than a 400. In fact 250? Maybe even 200 if your dimensions are good.

 

And if you're going to keep a single one, get a male. They're significantly smaller!

 

And as for the reef tank, it's still in consideration.

Save money and just get the front and sides low iron/Starphire the back and bottom don't need to be.

 

But any 10' x 3.5' piece is going to be $$$. Most likely going to be 3/4 inch thick. Freight will be a lot too. And you need like a lift/suction cup machine to move/assemble it.

 

I would look into having one made. Try miracles aquariums in Canada. Last time I priced an 8x4x2 it was around 6500 shipped and that was Starphire

Yeah, I see.

Hmm.

Unfortunately unless you buy in volume which is over 2500.00 your forced to buy through a glass store like Nw glass or similar. For example a 2'x2'x1/2" non tempered is 125.00 multiply that by 5 just for easy math and you can buy a low iron glass tank for that or cheaper.

I am and have been looking into buying in volume, but I have not found any places that I absolutely want to buy from yet.

When you take on any large DIY jobs no one store will work best. You will need any and every source you can find and glean as much info from others that have traveled that road or even a similar road. Internet research on forums such as this will provide you with a wealth of information that no amount of money can buy. Just remember that after you have learned everything you can, you will need to pass on your knowledge. I have much more to say but I forgot I am at work ;{

Oh, lol. Hope you didn't get caught at work haha.

 

I am aware no one store will work best. I am looking and looking and looking, and I've found that everything is feasible, except for glass, which seems to be so hard to find at a reasonable price for some reason. Google sure isn't finding me more than a few glass providers in the USA, all of whom charge at the MINIMUM $32 a squre foot for low iron glass 3/4"

I know as a matter of fact that it's impossible that builers would not pay such amounts of money for glass. There is absolutely no way. I am sure there are cheaper providers of glass, but where are they? I do not know.

 

Meanwhile, ordering from China through alibaba, the average price is $20-40 a square METER which means it's effectively 10 times less per square foot, at 2-4 dollars a square foot, but the shady business practices in China make it extremely hard for buyers to traverse. Not to mention the fact that most sellers set a minimum order limit of 100 square meters of glass.

I'm interested in building a large tank 10' long ~4' wide 3.5' deep. I'm trying to get large glass panes, and, simply put, starphire glass isn't satisfactory as it's somewhat blatantly overpriced. Do any of you know of glass pane providers that I might be able to contact?

I had my frag tank bare bottom for almost a year and just recently put sand in it and I love it! The bare bottom was nice for cleaning and such but the sand just has such a nice look to it the both have their pros and cons lol.

 

 

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If look is all you're going for, look into gluing/attaching sand under and outside the aquarium.

I think he has a 6'x2'x2'. . . not as wide, but. . . I think he is looking for about $200. . . could probably come down some too if I talk to him about it being in his best interest. . . LoL

If matt's not gonna take it, I'd be interested in that tank! I've been tryinng to get a sizable tank for a while, but lady luck hasn't been on my side.