I have felt that giving up this hobby would be great a couple time in the past 4 years because I couldn't grow any sps's or keep them alive and then when u loose a fish and u think of how much money u spent on it (flame) I can't tell how much $$ I spent on fish over the years & sps I hate them so bad but dam they r nice corals (laugh) & I can't give that up (laugh) but I feel ur pain