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It will be intersting to see the results they get with SPS...

I also make my own food. I just go to the grocery store and get a small amount of a bunch of different raw SW items (oyster, fish, shrimp, etc...) add some garlic juice, cyclopeeze, oyster eggs, mysis, and nori. Then a blend it into small chunks in the food processor and freeze it in a ziplock. It works great and the fish and corals love it.

They have quite BAD ratings on RC, from what I've seen of their quality and lack customer service they are the K-Mart of tanks. I would never buy a tank from them but then again I don't believe in shopping from people with NO customer service...

I think smokers would be unhappy. How would you like it if someone said that you cannot drink Coke in a resturant or bar because they think its bad? Until there is solid proof that the 2nd hand smoke is bad, its really the same thing as you drinking a glass of Coke. Just cause you or I don't like it doesn't make it wrong. Why do you think the smoker should have to go outside to smoke, maybe the non-smoker should be the one going outside for fresh air. Like I've said before I hate smoking, I hate the way it smells on my clothes and therefore I choose to stay away from it. But I don't think the government needs to tell people where they can and cannot smoke, atleast where public business are concerned. As Sean said let the business decide on there own, they will do what the majority wants because of the $$$.

Yeah I thought that was really cool, its a good step towards perserving the reefs for our children and our children's children. Now they just need to stop the massive Shark slaughting going on in Mexico...

Yeah the small fluctuation is fine, I just didn't like the big ones. Yeah I'd like to see it get up to the 8.0 range...

This is really cool.LINK Sounds like an amazing place to dive... RIch

Well the pH has stabilized out a lot better now, it now goes from 7.8 to 7.9 which is not as high as I would like but it .10 is a small change so I can live with that. I had a hard time getting my alk to the right level, it spiked up higher then I wanted but has now settled at around 12. I've also been fighting with the CA, I have never had a hard time keeping it at 400, since the alk spike it wants to stay at about 300. I dosed it up last night so hopefully I can get it to stay now. Rich

I'm not going into the political debate now. But I do agree with Sean on the Global warming, Ozone, and smoking debate. I had totally forgot about all of the Ozone stuff, you never hear anything about it. I guess the Ozone must be all healed now, or maybe it was never really a problem... hmm makes you think maybe global warming will go the same way as the ozone and magicly disapear... I watched a show on the Discovery channel last night about the magnetic poles and how they are changing something like 5 miles every year. They said this can have a huge effect of climate and a lot of other things. As for the smoking, its exactly as I was trying to say. This should be up to the business and not something else for the government to control. We have enough government control as it is, do we really need them in this too. People have a right to choose where they work and where they go, no one is making you go into a bar with smoking. If you don't like it go to another bar or ask the owner to change to non-smoking. If there is enough demand I'm sure they would do that.

Yeah I wouldn't trust it either, there are just to many weird things about it.

Can you show me an article that explains why the Earth had iceages and then global warming in the past when NO humans were on the planet?

I've read a few others, it was a while ago so I have no idea if they are even around anymore.

drock59, The article I started this thread with gave pretty compelling evidence to the contrary. I honestly don't have the time to dig around all over the place looking for more. I think I've said my piece and I'm really done arguing with you. Rich

But that it is TOTALLY your "feelings"; and it does NOT seem to be the opinion of REAL scientists. You go on believing everything that AL Gore and the other "experts" tell you; I'll stick with the facts...

Ben, I know of 2 jobs in the Portland metro area. PM or email me and I'll forward you the info... Rich

I have no disrespect for the Earth matter of fact its the opposite, I think the planet if very strong and powerful. And NO I do not believe we effect the climate that much, I think the planet would and will continue with or without us. I do think that you are confused though, I'm not saying we should just go ahead and thrash it because its strong. I do everything that I can to protect it and not add to problems. I think this argument has gotten out of control and I'm tired of the insults. You believe the way you do and I will continue to believe the way I do. I'm not going to address your rude comment about uneducated because the only thing I can think of to say back is also rude. You’ve bought into the whole thing hook line and sinker and there is no changing your mind or other realities, so I concede....

Tell me this. Why would you not believe that it is a normal thing for us to have warming every XXXX amount of years? Do you really think that we are so POWERFULL to change the whole climate of the planet? I don't, I think that natural changes happen with and without our help and that there is nothing we can do it change it. I think the Earth is a very powerful and can handle most of the stuff thrown at it, but that's not saying we need to test that theory and see if its true. Yeah I'm stuck in my way of think just like you are. As for talking about facts and then what ifs. Are you saying that the iceage from the past is not a fact? Because everything I see points to past iceages and then huge warming. I mean there used to be an ocean in Utah, what happened to it? How about global warming????

I personaly have NOT seen a majority of evidence pointing towards US creating global warming, so I guess I'm on the wait side. But I still feel that we should do our best to not pullute our environment. If that contradictory then so be... I think there is a lot of pressure from hollywood and some politicians to push the Global warming issues. I think scientist are also influenced by peer pressure too, also its not very PC to come out against global warming. I disagree that he is done, matter of fact I would argue the opposite of that. Read here! Exactly and thats the problem, what if this whole Global warming trend is just a completly normal thing that happens every XXXX amount of years...

I'm not saying one way or another about it being bad, I just don't think that has been enough studies done to point one way. There has been a lot of feelings about it though. I'm reserving my opinion until there is good proof. If you want to know my person view, I believe that it is bad for people and child, but this is completely based on a feeling and not on facts. Therefore I choose to go to places that are no smoking, but I don't feel that no one has a right to smoke in a place that is for smokers. But lets stop talking about smoking, I really didn't want to discuss it I was just using it as an example. There have also been studies that show it does not cause health issues. No I feel that we all need to do our part to not pollute the earth. But until there is proof that the HumV is hurting the earth who am I to stop someone from driving one. I don't think this is a selfish view, I think that we all need to take responsiblity to do our part, whether that is a beach clean up, or taking the bus, or selling the HumV. I agree there needs to be some REAL research done without some political hollywood moron pushing it. When I read articles like the one I posted that says climatologists are afraid to speak out against the global warming machine, then you realize how much pressure there is to hide the facts. I have no idea, I didn't realize there was one, I'm not a big conspiracy theory buff. I do think there is a push by people like Gore to make us believe that Global warming is a FACT and that all cars are BAD. Not obsessed at all, I just want to know the facts and not have them covered up by lies and miss information. I have one question for you. Can you tell me if global warming is happening because of CO2 and humans. What happened to the last ice age if we were not around then? I am too, I'm trying not to take anything personally...

I don't agree with this mentality at all, basically you are saying lets just lead people on with this whole global warming BS so we can force them to do what we think is right. This is my belief and I have NO right to force that on someone else, if they want to drive a HUGE Hummer then who am I to say they cannot especially if its not hurting the environment. The alternative fuel thing needs to come from us wanting to get away from the middle east countries not from us thinking the we are destroying the world even though we are not.

I'm an ex-smoker so I'm the worst about people smoking around me or my family. But I don't really want to argue that whole thing. It was just really sad to listen to the lady that was SO hung up on her cause that even scientific evidence was not going to change her from spewing out the same thing over and over again. It was really quite sad and I think she actually did more harm to her cause then good. I agree with investaging it further and I still think we should make an effort to control the emmisions. I would love to see an alternative fuel source or multiple ones, competion is always a good thing. It would also be nice to get away from depending on getting our oil supply from countries that want to KILL us and see our way of life destroyed.

I honestly believe that some people get so hung up on their cause that they choose to ignore the truth or something that contradicts their cause. Case in point; The other day I was listening to a talk radio show and there was a lady on there arguing for her cause (stop all smoking in bars, etc..). The host of the show would ask her a question and the only thing she could say was the same line about how 2nd hand smoke is bad, bad ,bad. She wouldn't listen to any other proof, study, or argument that went against her cause, she was just completely sold on the cause and that it was right, period. It was really sad and she ended up sounding like a complete brain washed fool...

Great, interesting, what’s the dif... It makes you think and realize that maybe we are being lied to by someone or a group of someone’s with an agenda. They don't care if what they say is true or not, but when you have TONs of money it’s easy to confuse a lot of people into think that it’s true and that ALL scientists agree...

I found this @ LINK

I bought mine from Fanta Seas, they had a couple different brands of Phyto and oyster eggs...