jonas503 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 So I have had a hippo tang in qt with low salinity 1.010 for about two weeks and I can still see signs of ick. How long do you think it will be before it's all dead? It's eating great and is getting very fat and is doing great. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higher Thinking Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 If I recall correctly, Colby was saying there is a huge difference between 1.010 and 1.009. The latter is much more effective. I can't attest to this kind of stuff myself, but he's got the experience for sure!Sent from my HTCONE using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertareef Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Higher Thinking said: If I recall correctly, Colby was saying there is a huge difference between 1.010 and 1.009. The latter is much more effective. I can't attest to this kind of stuff myself, but he's got the experience for sure! Sent from my HTCONE using Tapatalk Yep - I recall him saying that the extra .001 made all the difference... which is one thing that makes the hypo salinity treatment tricky if you don't have really accurate measuring equipment. Not much room for error sine 1.007 is apparently fatal. Would make me nervous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonas503 Posted May 13, 2017 Author Share Posted May 13, 2017 I have a refractometer I'll take it to 1.09 and see how it does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoDoze Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 It could be the low salt causing the stress. If he's eating well, try feeding him garlic. Slice an entire garlic clove into thin slices, and let it soak with the food. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxmonkeyboy Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 What is the temperature? Higher temps mean faster ick shedding Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonas503 Posted May 15, 2017 Author Share Posted May 15, 2017 78 degrees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxmonkeyboy Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 I would bump it up to 81 or 82. Just make sure the water is oxygenated. Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danlu_gt Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Check online ich treatment article... If I recall correctly, need to be 1.008 but that's close to what they fish can survive. If it's marine velvet, it can survive much lower than fish can survive.Also, unlike freshwater ich, for marine ich, don't raise temp or ich can last 8+ weeks.Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxmonkeyboy Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Check online ich treatment article... If I recall correctly, need to be 1.008 but that's close to what they fish can survive. If it's marine velvet, it can survive much lower than fish can survive.Also, unlike freshwater ich, for marine ich, don't raise temp or ich can last 8+ weeks.Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using Tapatalk Can you provide a citation for that temperature advice? It is contrary to everything I have read on ich treatment.Thanks! Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonas503 Posted May 16, 2017 Author Share Posted May 16, 2017 I did a bunch of reading and they say 1.009-1.008 at 1.006 fish start to die. I have it at 1.009 and the hippo is looking better already. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertareef Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 10 minutes ago, jonas503 said: I did a bunch of reading and they say 1.009-1.008 at 1.006 fish start to die. I have it at 1.009 and the hippo is looking better already. This is good feedback and glad to hear it is working. Colby did suggest that the line between working and not is pretty thin and your experience would certainly seem to support that. I think they use some pretty carefully calibrated conductance/salinity meters for their setup just because of this - and the fact that overshooting can be fatal. Hope your tang continues to improve! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxmonkeyboy Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 I have been debating about purchasing a pinpoint salinity meter for new fish quarantine. Good to hear it is working out. The physics behind it are solid. In freshwater ich is child's play. Turn the tank to 84 degrees and wait a week. Although this does speed up the ich cycle there is apparently some other factors involved in saltwater that can enable them to tolerate the higher temps..Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonas503 Posted May 16, 2017 Author Share Posted May 16, 2017 Yeah just bummed I wasted 2 weeks at 1.010 lol. ? Live and learn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danlu_gt Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 3 hours ago, pdxmonkeyboy said: Can you provide a citation for that temperature advice? It is contrary to everything I have read on ich treatment. Thanks! Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk If I recall, the claim is that higher temp forces the ich cyst to into some sort of dormant state (wait out for better conditions). I tried google a few time but couldn't find where I saw that before. But here are discussions where marine ich can survive to 90F.http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forum/index.php?threads/marine-ich-myths-and-facts.23132/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxmonkeyboy Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Thanks I'll give it a read. Dormancy aside, my understanding is that the high temps speed up the life cycle. Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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