titus'reef Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 (edited) I have this set up for about 2 months now and a few weeks ago I saw this algae growing on the rock. And some on the sand. At first I thought it is diatoms but I don't know anymore. They look almost brown/black and can be brushed away with a toot brush. It looks like dust when brushed away. There are some small air bubble trapped and I don't think they are red slime because thy seem to grow like coralline algae. Notice the edge in the picture. Pictures have 1000 words. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Edited July 26, 2015 by titus'reef Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kireek Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Although it is very hard to see anything in the pictures,I would guess you have cyanobacteria or possibly dinos popping up.I would lean on the cyano side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titus'reef Posted July 26, 2015 Author Share Posted July 26, 2015 (edited) Although it is very hard to see anything in the pictures,I would guess you have cyanobacteria or possibly dinos popping up.I would lean on the cyano side.I only had 3 hermit crabs I introduced and that was after I saw the spots pop up. I'll try to put another picture. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Edited July 26, 2015 by titus'reef Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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titus'reef Posted July 26, 2015 Author Share Posted July 26, 2015 Ok the last picture was too bad so I took some with the lights off. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deiselreef Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 I don't know the scientific words but it looks like the typical red slime. I had a bloom of it in my nano 10gal and its due to high phosphates. Have you done a full water perimeter check? Also what type of cleaner crew do you have? Is it just the hermits? How long are your lights on? I've been told 8 hrs is ideal to help keep blooms down. I'd try getting some snails like turbos, conchs, and a urchin. Hope this helps Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titus'reef Posted July 26, 2015 Author Share Posted July 26, 2015 The first picture in the previous post shows this growing underneath the rock where light doesn't hit directly. I only had the tank set up for about 2 months. Bleached rock and cured for about 2 months without light. Yes only the 3 hermits. Light is on for 9 hours. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paratore Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Looks like red slime to me also. Cemiclean worked wonders for me when I had an outbreak. It never showed up again after just one treatment. Here is what I used. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titus'reef Posted August 14, 2015 Author Share Posted August 14, 2015 Here is another picture with the algae in the rock. Now it is in a more advanced stage. Notice the bubbles trapped by it. Here is another picture with this thing. It is not like red slime because this is not stringy. It covers the rock with great detail. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titus'reef Posted August 14, 2015 Author Share Posted August 14, 2015 I feel like bleaching the rock and starting over again :( Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBret Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 The bubbles trapped in the stuff....that is 100% cyno bacteria. Use chemical clean. If you have never used it before you will be amazed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBret Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 I could also come over and pressure wash your rocks off to brand new in 2.5 minutes or less. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackice Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Love the angel on the first pick one of my favorites for sure. as far as the algae goes your tank is still very young it'll go through these phases no matter what really you can increase your flow it'll help and all go away overtime or you can use the chemical stuff but with the lack of flow it's possible that it will come back or some other kind will come back. Oh yeah and the big one water changes help immensely!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titus'reef Posted August 15, 2015 Author Share Posted August 15, 2015 Here is a video of this thing. Do you still think it is red slime? I had to deal with red slime and it wasn't nearly as this. Similar color but stingy and easy to remove. https://vimeo.com/136359318 https://vimeo.com/136359400 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexinverts Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Didn't the Chemiclean work? If it is cyano then Chemiclean will knock it out. If the Chemiclean did NOT work, then it is dinoflagellates. I beat my dinos by lowering my nutrients--nitrate and phosphate. Nitrate by carbon dosing and phosphate by using phosphate absorbing media. There is also a Dino-X product by Fauna Marin that I just ordered to have on hand in case. Supposedly it works against some dino strains. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fauna-Marin-DINO-X-500ml-Combat-Dinoflagellates-/111730542789?hash=item1a03a8c8c5 Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titus'reef Posted August 15, 2015 Author Share Posted August 15, 2015 (edited) Didn't the Chemiclean work? If it is cyano then Chemiclean will knock it out. If the Chemiclean did NOT work, then it is dinoflagellates. I beat my dinos by lowering my nutrients--nitrate and phosphate. Nitrate by carbon dosing and phosphate by using phosphate absorbing media. There is also a Dino-X product by Fauna Marin that I just ordered to have on hand in case. Supposedly it works against some dino strains. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fauna-Marin-DINO-X-500ml-Combat-Dinoflagellates-/111730542789?hash=item1a03a8c8c5 Good luck! Chemiclean didn't do anything to it. Isn't Dino light brown or some light color? I never had Dino's before so I only know from research and pictures. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Edited August 15, 2015 by titus'reef 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexinverts Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Dino can vary in color a bit depending on the kind you have and your lights. I had a type of Dino once that fluoresced orange under my actinics. You probably have Dino. What are your nitrate and phosphate levels? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titus'reef Posted August 15, 2015 Author Share Posted August 15, 2015 Dino can vary in color a bit depending on the kind you have and your lights. I had a type of Dino once that fluoresced orange under my actinics. You probably have Dino. What are your nitrate and phosphate levels? Nitrates are around 2.5. I don't know about phosphates but I am running gfo. I think I will bleach again and start over again. I don't have any corals just the 2 fish at this point. Uh oh! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titus'reef Posted September 27, 2015 Author Share Posted September 27, 2015 (edited) And here is a quick update: I bleached the rock again and now it is with saltwater and a pump in a container. Next week I will buy new sand and mix more water to set up the tank again. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Edited September 27, 2015 by titus'reef Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 chemiclean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titus'reef Posted October 12, 2015 Author Share Posted October 12, 2015 chemicleanthat didn't do a thing. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodus Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 that didn't do a thing. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Thats because it doesn't look like cyano, looks like Dyno's and if that's the case I hate to say it but good luck with your battle it is a very difficult one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titus'reef Posted October 12, 2015 Author Share Posted October 12, 2015 Thats because it doesn't look like cyano, looks like Dyno's and if that's the case I hate to say it but good luck with your battle it is a very difficult one. the problem is solved. I bleached everything and started again. http://www.pnwmas.org/index.php?/topic/34649-40-Mini-Fusion-Bonsai-Style Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodus Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 the problem is solved. I bleached everything and started again. http://www.pnwmas.org/index.php?/topic/34649-40-Mini-Fusion-Bonsai-Style Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Yeah that will certainly fix it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexinverts Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 the problem is solved. I bleached everything and started again. http://www.pnwmas.org/index.php?/topic/34649-40-Mini-Fusion-Bonsai-Style Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk What are you going to do if they come back? I would add a UV sterilizer to your system to make this less likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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