Toby Flenderson Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Im trying to figure out why my acans never do well in my display tank. Every time I've tried they slowly recede and fade and shrivel up over time. In my frag tank (which is plumbed into the same system) they flourish, all plumped up and bright. Anyone have any ideas, just moved a really nice acan lord and purple green up and onto the sand bed under shade of a rock the other day and they don't look happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoobtoSalt Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 maybe chemical warfare with another coral? Or different lighting and flow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Flenderson Posted September 23, 2012 Author Share Posted September 23, 2012 I can rule out warfare. I have placed them near and away and all over. In the frag tank which they are doing well in they are crammed in like sardines. Flow is strong in that tank and they are getting blasted with 20k 250 watt mh. I thought that acans liked low flow and low light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrett Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Yeah, but theres always the freakonatures not every animal likes the same its more of a rule of thumb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuttleFishandCoral Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 I find that acan keep their color better under low light but not necessarily do better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Flenderson Posted September 23, 2012 Author Share Posted September 23, 2012 I've got lots of differnt types all doing well in high light high flow and in display I've tried them in high, low medium you name it. This is pre and post led and its not a matter of color loss as much as tissue loss and death. It's really bugging me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrett Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 any kind of pest worms that somehow survive in display but dont make it to frag tank?? or are their other acans in display Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Flenderson Posted September 23, 2012 Author Share Posted September 23, 2012 I don't think that's it because I've had them off isolated on the sand bed. My fungia is not looking so hot either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuttleFishandCoral Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 I was amazed with how much PAR some of these new LED fixtures produce. One at the meeting today was crazy, like 700 PAR at 20" down. Even at 50% it was still around 400 PAR. Might want to see how much your new LED are producing. Can definitely burn some corals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePremiumAquarium Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Do you happen to have any Angels in your tank? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Flenderson Posted September 23, 2012 Author Share Posted September 23, 2012 Hmmmmmm, a coral beauty. Why do you ask?..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoobtoSalt Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Hmmmmmm' date=' a coral beauty. Why do you ask?.....[/quote'] They like acans too... maybe even more than you...(laugh) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Flenderson Posted September 23, 2012 Author Share Posted September 23, 2012 Noooooooooo!!! I guess it doesn't matter that I've never seen nipping ever? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoobtoSalt Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Noooooooooo!!! I guess it doesn't matter that I've never seen nipping ever? Most angels are considered reef safe with caution. They have a thing for LPS that I have seen though. I would get them out of there if at all possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Flenderson Posted September 23, 2012 Author Share Posted September 23, 2012 It's just one and I've had it for a while. I wonder why it never touches the nice juicey wellsophilia? Oh well, I'll try to take out the angel. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emerald525 Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 I agree my guess it is one of your fish. I had the same problem with a flame angel. I even had hippo tangs develop a taste for acans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Z Reef Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Most angels are considered reef safe with caution. They have a thing for LPS that I have seen though. I would get them out of there if at all possible. I agree my guess it is one of your fish. I had the same problem with a flame angel. I even had hippo tangs develop a taste for acans. Angels seem to like certain lps for sure. Mine use to go after my trumpets and pick here and there at random other things. Also had a copperband that started doing some picking. Hard to say, but I try to avoid fish that are "reef safe with caution" so I don't wind up in that boat. Biggest pain is getting a single fish out of pretty much any tank over about 20 gallons lol! Acans are hard to say also. I've got them all over the place (high and low light/flow) in both tanks and they seem to be just fine (scratch) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hewey McLovit Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Do you happen to have any Angels in your tank? +1 on Coral Beauty! I have cages around my Acans in my display that were doing bad and i finally saw it nip at! Now they are growing great with no problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Flenderson Posted September 25, 2012 Author Share Posted September 25, 2012 +1 on Coral Beauty! I have cages around my Acans in my display that were doing bad and i finally saw it nip at! Now they are growing great with no problems. Could you post a pic of your acan cage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hewey McLovit Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 http://www.pnwmas.org/forums/showthread.php?31536-Acan-group-buy&p=317685&viewfull=1#post317685 Here's the link Toby, just used rain gutter mesh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate213 Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Do you have any peppermint shrimp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Flenderson Posted September 26, 2012 Author Share Posted September 26, 2012 No but I've got a cleaner shrimp. He usually stays up real high in the tank. I've got two large sea cucumbers that prowl around at night, I'm wondering if they could cause trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate213 Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 My cleaner has never caused any problems with my LPS, but I had some peppermints that were very fond of them. Once they rid my tank of aptasia they developed a taste for acans and Duncans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffreyg Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 I had some peppermints do the same thing now I make sure they get feed . I spied on em with a red light . I guess they don't see that spectrum so if you want to find out for sure if its them add one even its a crappy party bulb for a few nights .. I know that after I target feed my lps even if its hours after I can see them trying to get at the meat . Little scavengers . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reefnjunkie Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Do you feed the frag tank as you do the main display-they could be lacking food. I have found that to be the issue with some acans I have in my frag tank, even though its plumbed to the same system they still want to be fed well, which you may be doing, its just a thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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