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So after talking with several members they convinced me to post what happened. 2 weeks ago Thursday I was fragging some zoos without gloves on. Usually I wear them but I was only doing one frag so I thought no biggey. Well I must have had a cut under my thumb nail because zoo juice went under my thumbnail and within 5 minutes my thumbnail turned black. By Friday my thumb was so swollen I thought it would explode. The whole thumbnail was completely black. I had to work on my Moms farm on Friday evening til Sunday. Sunday nite my wife persuaded me to go to urgent care clinic on Monday (labor day). I felt like a pansy while I was sitting in the waiting room. The doctor saw me, I described what happened and he said I will be back in 15 minutes. He called the poison control center and the med school. He came back and gave me 2 horse tablet size antibiotics to take twice a day for 21 days. He also told me to go see an infectious disease doctor. Long story short, gloves from now on.

ps. I have run two marathons so I have an incredible pain threshold. I was ready to cut my thumb off it hurt that bad. So all the warnings people say about zoo juice has now made me a firm believer. Handler beware.

 

ps. NO THUMB JOKES!!!

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Scary Roger.(scary) Sounds like you got Augmentin. Be sure to take it all and you might want to take some probiotics like lactobacillus with it because it can do some not so nice things to you system.

 

I'm glad your okay and thanks for the reminder. Another reminder make sure you wear proper eye wear and mask. Think what that would have done to your eyes Roger!:eek:

 

This is seriously not worth risking your health.

 

I'm glad you are okay.(clap)(clap)(clap)(clap)

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Ok, I am not fragging any zoas I have in my tanks from the GO's-I need, or we need a a guinea pig, I mean a volunteer-It should not be that bad, I think overall its only like 260 frags.

 

Glad you are ok Roger-I have never worn gloves and this would make me lean towards wearing them if I had to frag any zoas, but I'm not (laugh)

 

Man people go to all lengths to avoid posting Grow Out Comp pics-that is better than the dog ate it like Franklin came up with.

 

Glad you are OK

 

J/K-

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Yes, always gloves!

 

May 2009 me and Jamie went to Costa Rica. We went for a long kayak trip into the mangroves and I got a skin bacterial infection. One finger and my left leg.

After days of terrible pain I went to a local doctor (specialist on"Worm Bites"!).

 

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(I'm not posting pics of "the thing" because it is really nasty)

 

He cut my finger in half and put a big needle in my leg, to let that infection drain out.

The most painful thing I ever tried (and I had 4 surgery in my life, including bullet removal).

After one hour he was done. No anesthetics because if was too expensive he said: $10 (????!!!!!!???).

Back in Portland the first doctor who saw my finger almost passed out and had to call another doctor. They collected a sample and it was sent to some tropical disease facility.

30 days of antibiotics and spraying it with epsom salt and I was done. Almost... because it went back later on and I had to redo the treatment.

The doctor was happy because I still had my finger. And I was happy too :))

 

I've learned that what is living in water can be really dangerous :)

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With those antibiotics, they are worried more about MRSA than zoa juice. You wouldn't use that with a typical zoanthid juice (Palytoxin) injection. You would use a steroid and antihistamine. Palytoxin effects the sodium potassium pump in your cells that believe it or not can lead to paralysis, respiratory depression and even death. It's crazy, but true.

Thanks for reporting the story. Sorry it had to happen to you. Hopefully we can all learn from it. Sheesh. I always tell my students that learning hurts lol.

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Thanks for the reminder and hope you heel up without any more issues.

 

As was mentioned here some Zoas do release a toxic poison when fragged that can have a very bad effect on us. Squirting it into your eyes is also very bad (and not uncommon). Additionally everyone should keep in mind that zoas are not the only source of poisoning from our reefs either. There are cases where people got nasty infections just from having an open wound in the water (Lionfish, eels, anemones, spiny urchins, frogspawn/torches and many others can also sting and/or cause nasty infections).

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Ok, I am not fragging any zoas I have in my tanks from the GO's-I need, or we need a a guinea pig, I mean a volunteer-It should not be that bad, I think overall its only like 260 frags.

 

Glad you are ok Roger-I have never worn gloves and this would make me lean towards wearing them if I had to frag any zoas, but I'm not (laugh)

 

Man people go to all lengths to avoid posting Grow Out Comp pics-that is better than the dog ate it like Franklin came up with.

 

Glad you are OK

 

J/K-

 

geesh I'll do it, but only for a price maybe an extra frag or something.(whistle)

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I don't know how many times Roger and I have talked about how we "never wear gloves" while fragging zoas and how many times we have said that it is "no big deal" and "I am solid" and "it wont happen to me"

 

I have fragged literally thousands of zoas and have personally never had this scare or issue. Roger has pretty much said the same thing every time we have chatted about it.

 

Well, Roger, thanks for destroying our record!

 

 

Also thanks for convincing me that I do indeed need to wear my gloves and goggles when fragging. I don't want a black thumbnail, a giant thumb, or extreme pain.

 

 

Thanks teach!

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