andy Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 It looks like Eric Borneman is getting close to releasing the data from his systematic examination of several commercial salt mixes. Anyone going to MACNA? He's planning on presenting the results there... Here's the Part 2. A link to Part 1 is in the article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly guy Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 THAT will be VERY interesting to see how it pans out. I got to believe there is more than a little bit of money riding on the results of these tests. I for one am prepared to drop my current salt like a bad habit(JUST like a bad habit maybe LOL), based on what i hear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAVES Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 no Oceanpure in the study :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sknoch78 Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 Yeah I was bummed it was not in there as well. I was rather curious as to how it stacked up against the rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowboardKid26 Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 No seachem either, and ive heard really good things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drock59 Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 oceanpure would be nice to know. Its cheap as dirt and seems to be pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 I haven't had any problems since switching to oceanpure. It is getting harder to find down south. Time for a trip to Portland. Jay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 I have it in stock all the time Jay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 Thought you weren't going to carry it anymore. Will be in soon. Jay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 I thought about dumping it but it is starting to catch on I think just because it is cheap more than anything. Pretty soon I am going to have to call the place Salt. I currently have Red Sea (old mix), Red Sea Coral Pro (the good stuff), Oceanpure, and Instant Ocean in buckets. Once I get done with this awful move I am going to pull alot of the shelving and reorganize it so that I can keep carrying a variety. It is going to get a little more crowded in there tomorrow I have all the stuff that I ordered from my trade show coming. You could say I went a little overboard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefin' Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 which oceanpure are u guys using, the regular or pro? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 I started with regular, but Sean has had the Pro in the last few times I have bought it. Jay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefin' Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 whats the difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowboardKid26 Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 Anyone using Seachem Reef? I was using Oceanic for a long time, but then I started being a responsible aquarist and tested a few batches of freshly mixed water.... whoa. i switched to Coralife just because my options are limited here in bend, IO, Oceanic, or Coralife. I've been considering buying a bucket of Seachem to try..... anyone have experience(sp? i tried 4 times.. shouldn't have failed english ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveweast Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 Anyone using Seachem Reef? I was using Oceanic for a long time' date=' but then I started being a responsible aquarist and tested a few batches of freshly mixed water.... whoa. i switched to Coralife just because my options are limited here in bend, IO, Oceanic, or Coralife. I've been considering buying a bucket of Seachem to try..... anyone have experience(sp? i tried 4 times.. shouldn't have failed english )[/quote'] Many knowledgable reefers have been mixing IO with Oceanic in a 50/50 blend for quite some time now. The low Ca and Mg (along with the high dkh) of IO balances the high Ca, Mg and low dkh of Oceanic. Seachem seems to be good....but, be aware, that it has a high borate content which will gives a false high reading on many alk test kits like Sailferts. The borate content needs to be subtracted from a Sailferts reading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowboardKid26 Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 Steve... do you have a method on how to do the math for the borate? Is there any links explaining borate and synthetic salt mixes you know of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveweast Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 There is a way to determine the value (discussed in the link below)....but, the best way is to use a test kit that the borate content doesn't interfere with the test results....Seachem makes one. All salts have borate in their mix....but, seachem uses alot to have a high pH.....and that large amount skews the dkh reading on some kits including Sailferts. You'll get a reading of 10dkh....but, reality is it is really 8 dkh. Here's a link where this concept is discussed with a Seachem rep....start around page 5. http://www.zeovit.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6849 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowboardKid26 Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 Yikes Steve..... is it the borate that caused the colony deaths, or just the alk problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveweast Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 It's the alk that was causing the problems in that thread. In a Zeovit system, it's very important to run an alk at 6 dkh.....so in reality, they were running too low at around 4 dkh even though their kits were reading 6 dkh. The high borate won't affect the health of the animals (that we know)....it will just give you a false reading on SOME alk test kits......past that, I've heard nothing but good things about the salt....you just need to be aware of a possible wrong result depending on which alk test kit that you are using. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 Has anyone besides me tried the new Red Sea Coral Pro? The readings we get are 450 calcium 1320 magnesium and 10 dkh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowboardKid26 Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 Lets just say I don't know if i'll be going that route after reading that thread, and the many chemistry articles attached.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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