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The wireless has to be plugged into the jack ya? Or just into electric outlet? I'm kind of learning all that stuff to had a heck of a time with this cable and net when we installed it. I keep thinking I put the router in the living room where the tank is but that plug is like 40 foot away from the tank and the apex would need a cable to run over there to that ya?

Tell you what that coral gum stuff is great glad you posted that to i need some . It works well when its in the water .. Nothing worse that trying to stick a corol in and have it fall down every 2 seconds. Thanks again for posting our group buy EDIT:) Spelling was bad that's what happens when on a lag fest lap top Home comp better

wonderful the plug to the tank is still 60 feet away so ill have cables running all over I might have to think about that one bummer to bad they didn't just make it wireless

well I already have a wireless router down the hall so then I wont need to run no cables down to this thing huh?

Here are some things to think about to I was reading some more reviews and the first few that popped up were not good reviews on this Again just tossing this out so people can see all options and yea these are good points to. Who runs 500 feet cable from there aquarium to the tank. I think in a earlier post someone said this is wireless? I just need to find it a port on my wireless router? I don't want to have to go out and buy more things for the money this system should be plug and play and be done with it. Jake would not recommend this to a friend Went on vacation and had a major fail system told me that had a friend go over but even after I explained everything to him it still didn't work out well. Tank crashed and lost it all its best to save your money on this shaky software and just have someone check on it for you. Even if you do get a alert a problem is going on chances are it wont help unless your close or give people the key to your place. Save yourself some money after having this for 2 years it has been more of a pain than anything. flash wouldn't recommend this product to a friend the directions are terrible (there are none you have to youtube everything )i have had it for 3 weeks now and I'm still not sure of everything yet. it may be a good product after all the aggravation it put me through. And bye the way you have to email for costumer service first. Talking on the phone is there last resort. So no directions and poor customer service TAL wouldn't recommend this product to a friend The system was packaged nice and the equipment appears to be durable. However, after spending 3 hours getting everything set up and drilled into my stand, my display screen randomly stops working. Spend the next 6 hours calling customer support. No one ever answers. They have about 3 different voice prompts instructing you to reach out via email instead. In between calls I do this. Receive an auto generated response but no one ever reaches out to me. On the 7th hour (of me calling them) someone finally answers. He takes over my computer screen and tries to fix it on his end for about 4 minutes. He can't fix it. His solution: "take an hour of your time and go to your local post office, pay to ship the item to California, where our technicians will look at it and assess. If it is still under warranty we will fix at no charge to you and reship." My response: "You mean on the unit thats been out of the box for less than a day? I'm supposed to go to the post office and mail it back to you? You can't just send me another $20 head unit considering I spend nearly $2,000 on equipment from you? This isn't worth my time" Response: "Yes sir, that's what I'm saying." What I'm saying to you: Don't be fooled into buying this thing. The head unit is literally a piece of junk. You can tell when you pick it up - weighs less than my TV remote. Defunk literally out of the box. The Apex Fusion software is clunky and not intuitive at all. Have not tried the mobile software but the web version is about 5 years away from being competent (similar to ecotech's if you know what I mean). I bought this thing to give me peace of mind as I left the country for the holidays. Now I'll just be leaving the life in my 180g up to chance. They couldn't just send me a new display and have me send them this one when I got back. Thanks Apex. Dirk wouldn't recommend this product to a friend Ive owned this system about a year now.setup or with general questions. , after all this time in development, still feels like a shaky house of cards. The firmware needs pretty frequent updating, and guess what? You have to have a direct wired connection to wherever you chose to install all these modules. So if your aquarium is far from you computer like me, you'll be buying a laptop! Or, you could attempt to update the firmware every time it needs it and risk "CATASTROPHIC" consequences they warn you about on your website. I travel for work frequently, which was my main reason for reaching for a certain level of automation. But with the frequent updates to try and keep this shaky software working, I'm often left away from my aquarium not able to use any of these features because I'm not home to jump through the hoops and get the firmware installed by crawling under my aquarium with a laptop. I only wish someone had told me this before I purchased this.

any chance you could provide me with a link of what adapter I would need BTW thank you all for the pro and cons here I'm still looking into things and rading reviews and pro and cons and stuff

Weird it worked on like the 5th time. But i got to be honest im looking at that scratching my head like huh lol i have not got to even dive into all that apex stuff like that. Gosh i can tell already when i do buy this ill be like a deer in a headlight

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Ya if you switch to the BRS 2 part ​ BRS 2 Part Doser Specs Silent operation 20ft max head Extremely accurate Will not back siphon Dimensions: 4" x 3.25" x 4.5" 12 month tube life (at 4 hours of use per day) 12 month Bulk Reef Supply warranty on pump motor and head Includes 17ft of 1/4" OD tubing, mounting bracket, and directions Santoprene tube BRS 2 Part Dosers are intermittent duty pumps and not meant for continuous operation. We recommend on/off cycles under a few hours to maximize life span. You will need two pumps in order to dose both calcium and alkalinity. When used with controllers like the ReefKeeper or Apex, we recommend connecting these to a mechanical relay outlet, and not a TRIAC outlet on the controller's powerbar. I like the sound of these 2 part doser but the whole connecting it to a mechanical relay outlet I'm lost I'm no electrician and I'm lost reading all this stuff as it mentions for this unit only I think that it wont work right with the apex because it needs to be plugged in to this relay and mb8 and mb6 whatever I'm lost on all that stuff to lol

I didn't see the part about the babies missed that part

If you follow my last couple post they you plug these into a mechanical relay outlet Now this would make the EB8 a joke for the apex.. I think this is why I have read that the dosing at times will not shut off because the way it is made its not made for on off things to much. On reef central a guy posted this.. Very disappointed with EB8 I love my Apex controller and already don't know how I lived without one for so long, but the EB8 is a joke and it seems the solutions from Neptune are pretty weak IMO. You can't plug low draw devices like dosing pumps, fans etc into the TRIAC outlets because they will not shut off. Neptune's solution: Use the relayed outlets. They are suggesting to use the outlets which were designed for items that draw the most current for items that draw the least current. Also they state the reason for the TRIAC outlets in the first place is because the relayed outlets have a limited number of operations before they fail due to the mechanical nature. Strike two for using dosing pumps on the relays since they need to switch on and off many times a day. Now on to the next issue. If you use the relay outlets for your dosing pumps you have to plug lights into TRIAC outlets. Now whenever the relay outlets switch off your lights flash, ballasts buzz etc. Neptune's response: A whole scientific explanation about sine waves and switching at certain points which the relays don't do which in turn introduces noise that the TRIAC outlets are very sensitive to. Their solution: put your lights on the relayed outlets. Come again? Which one is it? I would venture to guess that at least 90% of the people that purchase these controllers are going for automation which means they will be running lighting and dosing pumps yet somehow the EB8 was designed to not allow those 2 things to happen at once. How about 4 relay outlets and 4 TRIAC outlets on an EB8? Is there no way to shield the TRIAC outlets from the noise a little better? Maybe offer outlets in configurations of 4 keep them seperated. You could offer the EB4 and EB4HD or something. Then when you order a package you could choose from a combination of any 2 of the strips. Sure it might raise the cost of the initial package a little, but given Neptune's solutions I seem to be stuck purchasing either an EB4 or another EB8 to get the number of relayed outlets I need so everything will operate properly. So I am spending another $150 on top of the original package anyway and I can't even use all of the outlets I paid for in the first place. If providing the different type outlets in separate boxes of 4 raised the package price by $50 I would still be out less money, have no wasted outlets and I wouldn't have to figure out where I am going to put the extra box I shouldn't even need. Now on top of all of this outlet 1 on my EB8 is freaking out and turning on/off on its own randomly and providing varying amounts of current as the fans (and nightlight....a workaround for the low current draw issue) that are plugged into it speed up and slow down (and the nightlight dims) when the outlet randomly does its thing. The outlet is on manual and I have switched it on/off manually, powered down and restarted everything and it still does it. As I stated before I love all of the functions of the Apex itself and can't wait to get the additional modules for control of my Vortech and LEDs but the EB8 seems to be a big turd in the punch bowl. BTW SORRY FOLKS I told you I do my research and I nail down problems or could be problems and try to solve them or work on solutions in this hobby looking ahead can save disaster

Ok i found out something that wasnt to nice to read about dosing pump hooked up to apex they can fail Read this first - Energy Bars and outlets EBx Energy Bars Energy Bar Model Number of Outlets Max module Amperage (all outlets total) Max Amp/Outlet Voltage Number TRIAC outlets Number Relay Outlets EB4 4 15A 8A (#3 is 12A) 120v 0 4 EB6 6 (UK style) 10A @ 230v 8A 230v 0 6 EB8 8 15A 5A 120v 6 2 A couple of notes about the EB8 module. These come with 8 receptacles, numbered 1 - 8. Outlets 4 and 8 are activated with mechanical relays (on the EB4. EB6, and Apex Jr., all 4 outlets are mechanical relays). These have a distinct "click" whenever they switch on/off. Mechanical relays (think light switch in your house) have been around for a long time, are inexpensive and very reliable. They handle both high and low current devices well but are large and bulky compared to solid state alternatives. Also, over time they can ‘arc’ (basically a small spark) and have their contacts ‘pit’ (a black, crusty residue) as a result. And, as far as switches go, they’re relatively slow which can be a problem in some applications. Outlets 1-3 and 5-7 are TRIAC (Triode for Alternating Current) solid state outlets. They are silent, compact and capable of hundreds of thousands of on/off cycles. An example of a TRIAC switch can be found on your Christmas tree lights. They are very, very fast and can switch in fractions of a second and do that all day long without wearing out like a mechanical switch/relay would. Another advantage that TRIAC switches have over mechanical switches is that they “time” their switch to the point when the current sine wave is at or near zero (what Neptune calls ‘soft start’). This virtually eliminates the possibility of “arcing” that can happen with mechanical relays that are indiscriminate about where in the sine wave they open/close. One problem with TRIAC controlled outlets however is that they sometimes cannot detect very low power factor devices and as a result may not switch off correctly. They fail in an ‘on’ state. This only happens with very low power devices, < 4-5 watts. So, if you have any device like that, you might consider putting it on EB8 outlets 4 or 8. Dosing pumps and very small power heads are good examples of problematic devices with TRIAC outlets. The total amperage draw of all outlets for an EB8 is 15A which is the maximum load an average household circuit can handle anyway. TRIAC outlets are designed for a maximum of 5A, the relay outlets 10A. The EB4 outlets (1-3) can handle up to 8A each and outlet #4 can handle 12A. The maximum of 15A for the module still applies. The EB8/4 module has a virtual “probe” that reports total amperage load – displayed on the status screen in real time and logged in your data logs. This is the total load for the module - it can't currently tell you the load by outlet. However, by turning on the outlets one by one, you can deduce how much each device draws. You can then shuffle them around to different outlets if necessary. The probe is named “Amp_n” where “n” is your EBx AquaBus address. One problem with TRIAC controlled outlets however is that they sometimes cannot detect very low power factor devices and as a result may not switch off correctly. They fail in an ‘on’ state. This only happens with very low power devices, < 4-5 watts. So, if you have any device like that, you might consider putting it on EB8 outlets 4 or 8. Dosing pumps and very small power heads are good examples of problematic devices with TRIAC outlets. NOW that would suck

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Controlling the temperature of a seahorse tank is important. Seahorses prefer cooler water than most tropical aquaria, so the tank should be kept cooler for their maximum comfort. A tank temperature of 74 to 76 degreesF will be good area.. HOB filter hang on the back is the best to use and in most cases that's what you should use. very little water movement and don't put them in a established tank. Make sure to house them in a species only tank if you put crabs in there only do the blue hermits Hope this gets ya started Loved seahorses had some few years ago but they can be a ton of work Just remember that seahorses are not going to be the same as a normal tank and if they get slapped around they can die. Do up some research as well on them and of course come on back if you have more questions I had a small tank of them years ago and did well with them.. ​

Home depot has those i seen some but not sure if its the exact ones. They had some nice stainless steel plates that look good to.

+1 seen it to all them fish are beautiful and very nice system they are in.. The picture doesn't show how awesome it is someone will get a beauty

Home depot FTW You can get a lot of things there i like going there walking down all the isles and seeing what i can build or be creative doing but sure they have that or something like that

Xenia is like aiptasia not as bad but hard to get rid of maybe even hard than aiptasia. These can sting your corals to few years ago I had a major fight with these if they get on your main rock your going to have huge problems . How I got rid of mine was I had to take all my rock out scrub it with a toothpaste then seal the areas with kalk and let me tell you this was not fun but it worked. This round on my tank I want nothing to do with that stuff. Great for the tank and then can travel across the sand to your rock when you sleep and you wont have nothing to say about it and if you pull them off to lay seeds parts of it planted. So kalk paste it. If you can cut them all off at the stem then super glue that might work to never tried that then give that to someone else. They are amazing for your tank to start up but you have to control these guys they can turn into weeds. Just happen to be on google watch this guy get red of XENIA never seen this one before EDIT I love the do it yourself things

Ok im in all signed up the reward points are nice add on

sweet you can give me some pointers I plan to do a lot of hiking this year now that I'm back I hope I can get some good pics out there I would love some pointers I like taking pics I just don't like being on the other end of them

That looks very nice!!

Wont this do alk and calcium and water changes? Click on image to zoom View full size image Click on image to zoom View full size image Click on image to zoom View full size image Click on image to zoom View full size image Click on image to zoom View full size image Click on image to zoom View full size image More Views Ask a question Full Details Videos Reviews Quick OverviewBubble Magus' most advanced pump to date! The BM-T11 is a great option for calcium and alkalinity supplementation, additive dosing, or even food dosing. Purchase the BM-T12 slave unit to add additional heads to your T11 setup! More Quick OverviewBubble Magus' most advanced pump to date! The BM-T11 is a great option for calcium and alkalinity supplementation, additive dosing, or even food dosing. Purchase the BM-T12 slave unit to add additional heads to your T11 setup!MoreT11 Dosing Pump System - Bubble MagusBubble Magus' most advanced pump to date! The BM-T11 is a great option for calcium and alkalinity supplementation, additive dosing, or even food dosing. Purchase the BM-T12 slave unit to add additional heads to your T11 setup! Features: Stylish new body color and form factor Expandable up to 11 channels with the BM-T12 Slave Unit (sold separately) Tighter tolerances on seams to resist moisture exposure on internal circuitry German-made medical grade tubing for increased lifespan Advanced alarm system to alert you if there is an issue with the motor, tubing, or board Specifications: Dimensions - 10" x 5.75" x 2.75" Accuracy +/- 5% Voltage - AC100-240V, 50/60Hz, 0.36A, DC12V, 1A 3M Dosing Tube Included Flow - 1 to 1999mL Cycles - Maximum 24 per day What's in the Box?: Dosing Pump Power Supply Documentation Tubing * Note - BM-T11 and BM-T12 are not interchangeable with BM-T01 and BM-T02 models. T12 slave unit will not function standalone. T11 Dosing Pump System - Bubble Magus Or would I need to get the slave for it as well. Or if I don't dos calcium which I don't right now it stays at 550 I guess I could do alk and the water change on this one? Seems 1 black nob would pump the alk from the cylinder to the tank dosing the alk and when I do calcium the same so I think I do need a slave because ill need 2 for that one? I was looking at the BRS site for this system what I want is to dose alk and calcium and be able to do water changes with this so I don't have to. I'm not saying I'm changing what I'm doing now but I like having options and preparing ahead which is the way I'm thinking about going.

Bump lower the price

Funny you posted this about UPS as I was just posting to. I think I was leaning towards getting APC BR1500G Back-UPS Pro 1500VA 10-outlet Uninterruptible Power Supply This actually can save money a year having one of these to there not cheap but can give power due to loss. or this CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD PFC Sinewave UPS 1500VA 900W PFC Compatible Mini-Tower by CyberPower

I was just thinking if the power outage went out what good is it going to do if the apex goes out it cant send you info so back up power I forgot I have this I actually have 2 of these one I'm not using. I use this my modem is plugged into it. So like when my pge went and cut cables outside my place for 3 hours with no warning my back up kicked on to keep my net running. Might be good idea to plug the apex in here so if the power goes out it can still run. Now you wont be able to run everything if the power goes out but having the power heads power heads run is a must. Maybe even plug these into the power heads only. During outage water movement is the most important and heat.. I like the idea of having at least 1 power head and the return pump plugged into this. Granted this will only give you about 2 or 3 hours of back up power.. Now having one for your router and lap top you can run it like 5 hours so its still nice thing to have I know they make the UPS back ups to funny you never think about what if my power goes out. I think this is one over looked areas in this hobby APC BGE70 Back-UPS Connect 3-outlet Home Network Uninterruptible Power Supply (UPS) Look these up