Scottb

It was great meeting all of you. We had a great time Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Where were you last week. I have been searching for a couple of weeks. But I broke down and bought new on monday

OK I thought I would chime in with some info. I hope that no one takes offense, and I hope that several find this info useful. As some of you may know I do finish work and cabinets for a living. I wanted to talk about the materials that we should and probably shouldn't use to build stands and hoods, and how they should be constructed. Most of what I see for wood stands is 2x4 and plywood. Though I DO NOT recommend it I also see quite a few on here made from strand board and particle board. 2x4's are more than strong enough to support the largest tank on this site if used properly. On end one 2x can support close to 1 thousand pounds and when you add several the capable load per stud increases dramatically. Where I see failure is long spans of horizontal 2x4. I personally would have a maximum span of 24" between my studs and 16" centers would be preferable. As for your sheet goods, USE PLYWOOD! if you try to save money here you will regret it later. Particle and strand board will turn into dust if they get wet. When I say wet I mean just the humidity around the tank is enough to compromise them over time. Many of you have thousands or more invested in you tanks why would you ask for failure to save $50 on the build. When you lay out your plywood it is important to know how many ply the sheet is and what direction the grain is going. Like dimensional lumber sheet goods have strong sides and weaker sides. When plywood is made thin sheets of wood are glued together with the grain opposing each other. If the sheet you are using is 5 ply, 3 of the veneer sheets are going one direction and 2 the other. The edge that has the end cut of the three sheets will be your structural edge. I explain this because allot of the time bargain building material stores have 1/2 price plywood but if you look closely the sheets are stacked incorrectly, and you will end up with a stand that if built properly will have a horizontal grain instead of a vertical grain. If that doesn't bother you... buy it and save the money! And don't waste your money on marine grade plywood. The only difference between marine grade and exterior ply is that all of those football shaped voids have been filled on marine grade, the glue is the same. This makes the sheet have equal strength among the face of the sheet for pressure. If you don't have the equipment to fasten your furniture like a cabinet shop does use screws! The weight of your tank, rock, and water is tremendous. That kind of force will try to push the stand down, when it is against the floor it cant so it will start putting outward pressure on all of you joints. A nail has a smooth shank and screws don't. This is the same principal as tread on your tires vs. being smooth. I hope this was helpful, if you need any advice please feel free to contact me! SB

And the man chimes in! Thank you boringdave for turning me on to them! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I just ordered a light from sb reef lights. I was going to hold out for a used high end light but after some advice from another member, and allot of hours of reading I pulled the trigger. With the holiday sale it was $116 shipped. And if what I read is true it should preform as well as Radeon or kessil. I guess I am a few days from finding out[emoji4] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

And of course those two are $5 pp right[emoji4] I think I might have expensive taste Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

oct 17 you posted macro pics, what are the #5 and #7 corals?

So I am a little late to the game on this thread, but here it goes. I had a reef tank for a short while 10-12 years ago and had to get rid of it for a couple of reasons. One I just couldn't afford it ( and really I still cant) and my home was a 1k sqf home with a 250 gal. tank in it. I couldn't stop the mold and mildew growth in the house. A couple of months ago a friend of mine bought a house in central Oregon with a nice 125 gallon fowlr tank in it that he didn't want. So I made a flyer and my wife and I took it into my LFS. As she was looking around she told me that she really missed watching the fish and how she would like to have another tank.... but smaller. I came up with this idea to build a beautiful budget tank, utilizing CL and other forums. So here is what I have come up with so far........ Brand new 40b......................... $30 craigslist 20 G acrylic sump.....................$25 craigslist Older Bubble Max skimmer......$30 craigslist The stand and hood I built ( I am a finish carpenter) ( 4 home depot 2x4 studs @ 3.41each $13.64 2 sheets of 1/2 birch plywood from a local bargain building materials store 2 @ $19.99 $39.98 1 quart of enamel paint $8.98 Euro hinges.................$10 Home depot 1x4s.............................$12 Home depot The crushed coral bed and the live rock was salvaged from the central Oregon tank. New 640gph sump pump........... $55 LFS Diamond bit and jig to drill the tank $19.99 Ebay Filter Sock.......................................$5 LFS Lock Line fittings and diffusers $ 24 LFS 10 feet of 3/4 tubing ......................$19.99 Home depot Overflow box...................................$16.99 Ebay The tank build without lighting $310.57

I am a newby and very excited. I am from sublimity and have to work sat., however I will be working in Tualatin until about 3. Just looked it up, I will be 9.3 miles away!!!! I will be there!

Please help me out here people, if I am way off on my price please tell me so. I truly have no idea what it is worth. I am not offended easily and I am never offended by offers, or trade offers

location? I am interested in the reactor, wave makers, zoas, and maybe the fancy clowns. Please PM me with prices

In the last 3 days I have purchased 8 of these things, one of them couldn't handle the stress coming home. But not 1, not 2, not 3, but 4 of them have died from trying to swim through the holes in the live rock and end up stuck. They are small fish, but they are the only fish in the tank. It isn't like they are trying to hide from a trigger. This is crazy.

Does anyone have a pic? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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my wife works for the school district down here east of salem, I am trying to get it home close to me.

Lots of people have looked, but not one comment..... Am I asking to much?

Pm sent

Thanks for the info. I finally bought a refractometer. I will watch it like a hawk from now on. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I just need to say..... this is a terrible hobby. We went up to ptown for the $9 yellow tang on Saturday. came home and I just couldn't get it to eat. Of course it was the ONLY fish that my daughter wanted, and it died just a couple of minutes ago. I understand they are stressed, and who knows the history of the fish. And in no way shape or form do I blame the shop. After all it was a $9 tang, well worth the risk. But I think I will stick to my chromis , goby, and clowns for a while, let everything get good and established and try again in a few months. Im hooked

Brand new, angstrom Ultraviolet sterilizer for fresh or saltwater. First $125 takes it home.

U better hurry, I am still the only person here[emoji4] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Crazy, got here at 7:15 to be the first in line. I brought my wife..... She just doesn't understand Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Sublimity, just east of salem Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

So I bought a couple of mystery corals this morning @ the premium aquarium. It was a lot of fun, and one of them that we got was a pretty large colony of hard coral. I don't know what it is or what it is worth, but I am afraid that I am going to kill it. I am a newby and I am wondering if there is some one out there that will be fair with me and trade it for some frags that will be a bit easier to keep alive. Here is what I have. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Jeramy, my address is actually Aumsville. I live right by the harvest festival grounds