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Opps sorry about that, it wasn't published yet. Should be live now

This short video was meant to show Mitrillion the reach of some Chalices, thought i'd share it with all You can see my tang come over and say, hey! you plan on doing something about this?!!

My WP-25 just failed on me, anyone have a WP-25 or WP-40 laying around? At 3:30am nonetheless

Don't put anything next to a Chalice, the Chalice will win Next time one of mine are feeling froggy i'll show ya, on some chalices the stinging tentacles can reach 6''- 8''

Thanks Jeremy Well i can report success (i think) i been up working on it all night and just got back from Lowes with the last union i needed and dry fit the tee's in the box and after completely changing the heights of everything it's looking a lot better, even aesthetically with it being all ABS in the overflow box instead of white. I am a bit worried about my sump, i don't think it can handle what i intend to throw at it, during system shutdown the water level in the sump comes to about an inch or 2 from the top. I'm starting to wonder whats going to happen when i toss my skimmer in there. I'm going back to Lowes to re-work my emergency drain, nothings wrong with it, it's just ugly now that the 45's are not the same height anymore. Thank god for threaded unions! (Easy cheap fix) The way it sits i'm hesitant to weld the tee's in, it seems to be working fine. I will upload and post another video of the "fix" and we can see if we're getting closer btw, i have only managed 60% on the DC-12000 so far, i don't really care about the noise, the sump just can't handle it, the baffles are also separated from the sides and it bows quite a bit.

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Hey no problem John, the way that i understand it is the open channel (The drain with the airline) keeps the system stable. Its a "set it and forget it" as the flow goes up and down for varies reasons, the open channel keeps everything in check. There shouldn't be the "occasional adjustments" when working as designed, i just missed a few important details. I wish i had the vocabulary like some of the guys over on RC to be able to explain it better

This thread has absolutely nothing to do with a Herbie overflow or ANY of the Herbie methods when it pertains to my system. They are two completely different systems.

How? And yes, i think you are. It's in the OP Agreed, it will just be a lot easier to start having fun again when the select few are online that actually understand the system and can confirm my changes so i can finish my system and start replacing 3/4 of the coral i've lost and save the ones i have left. As for the memes, they tend to lose their luster when your on here seeking help and losing livestock.

Here is the thread for reference. All 8000 crazy posts of it! http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1310585

I'm not sure if this will help be he posted this today, it also will explain more on the style of drain system Steve is running. http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=23568335&postcount=8073

Thanks Steve, yeah, i was just in there looking at that and was just thinking about how much that pipe sticking up higher will annoy me I'm sure i'll get over it real quick as long as i can get this running right.

Yes, i need the teeth being i have working fish that really want to go home and stay home thanks for confirming the height in the box, this was one of the main questions that needed answering before i started cutting things apart again. Its gonna be a long night

Thanks Charles, The open channel and siphon are at the same level and yes, the water stabilizes out in the center of each elbow. I'm being told the open channel is taking too much flow. Also that i should raise the open channel an inch or so to raise the water level in the box to cut down on the noise created by the long drop. My plan is to re-do the overflow box (All in ABS) in the following manner, please advise if this is correct The ABS is so it doesn't stand out as much in the box as opposed to white pvc (Looking at the front of tank and sump) siphon in the left of the box (All the way to the bottom of the box) E-pipe in the center (Just a straight ABS) open channel in the right of the box (This time raised up a bit) If you watch the video around the 6min mark the sump is almost overflowed a couple of times trying to purge the air from the siphon. This is my reasoning on the placement of the drains into the particular sump chambers, the was it is now, both the open channel and siphon drain into a somewhat small chamber in the rear of the sump. My plan is to move the open channel to the far right chamber in the sump so only the siphon is draining into the back chamber along with the emergency when needed.

I was just told after i was done that with a external box it was not necessary to glue the fittings into the bulkheads, that just a snug fit will do but have also been told that the smallest pin hole of an air leak can and will interfere with the sipion. This is one of the major problems that i'm running into over at RC, everybody has a different opinion on this system it seems. As much as i try to dry fit everything prior to welding it, i can't dry fit it to their stopping points so exact measurements are tougher. some say its not rocket science and while i agree some things do indeed need to be exact for this system to work correct. Perfect example is how deep the drains terminate in the sump, i had mine an inch too long and after cutting them so they terminate just 1'' below the waterline it is running somewhat stable, its not correct, but stable. It was a nightmare to try and figure out where to cut them when i couldn't get the system running long enough to get a accurate running water level. Thank you for the offer! I may need to see other system running correctly being i don't know when i have it right with this system. edit: and yes these teeth are something i wish now were never cut into this tank when built.

Thanks Smann, it makes sense, though i can't remember off hand exactly why the elbow on the siphon was needed, i have to go back to RC on that, they were just explaining why it was needed a couple days ago

The DC-12000 has no problem running a 1.5'' drain The pump is set on 40% in the video and as it sits now, when i turn up the flow it will either empty the compartment the return pump is in too fast or if it is able to stabilize its the loudest sound you can possible image coming from an aquarium! Mainly because of the teeth and the current height of the drop in the box. The open channel sanitary tee needs to raised to raise the working water level in the box.

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Like i mentioned, i have everything to re-do the overflow box i just want someone here that knows the system when i re-do it, bulkheads add up quick

First please excuse the mess that this post will become, i'm going bonkers trying to get this system up and running being its taken me a few months now and with my house being torn up and fish and coral here and there because of it, it has got completely out of hand and i now must finally ask for help, i mean i even have fish in a tank on the floor in my hallway! I haven't really lost any fish yet but this all started a few months back with a frag tank that broke and all my coral was shoved into a 40b that was being used as the sump w/o baffles. Fast forward to now, the coral i have left now fits on the bottom of a 29g. It took far longer then i expected to clear and prep the area the tank was going (Long boring story) Anyway, onto the tank... Tank 60 x 20 x 17 Sump 28 x 16 x16 1.5'' Bulkheads 1.5'' Pipe x2 1'' Returns Jebao DC-12000 return http:// http:// http:// http:// and before the old tank failed just for fun (From the GB live sale) http:// Here is a 9min video of some power failure tests and how it sits now, i've been on RC for many many months with this trying to learn the system and figure it out ahead of time, but now i think its time for some hands on help. I have everything needed to re-do the overflow box to fix the problems there but it's looking like my sump just is not large enough to accomadate the flow i'm trying to force though it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPnT51oZSnY&feature=youtu.be

Found some at Upscales, thanks everyone!

Where can i find some 1'' black vinyl tubing? Trying to plumb the returns for my frag system.

Thanks Matt, i'll measure up the trunk tomorrow and try and see if it will fit.

sounds good, thanks Matt

Awesome! hmmm, i wonder if i could shove it in that ford taurus that i picked up that brute from you with