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That's what was previously setup.... Somehow they still managed to get in the drain. I had to go to a screen inside the downspout.

I know right! I had to change to a different screen type to stop them from ending up in the pump.

Looking good man... Lot's o' stuff in there!

that's a sweet looking fish!!! looking forward to some more pics of that guy!

Heck ya!!! I will see you tomorrow Rudy!!!

no we are not a store.... we are just some horders Thanks Brad!!

If you want.... you can come visit us in Hillsboro... we have the tools and can show you how to frag them. Sometimes they are too bunched up to frag, but there are ways to get them started in the right direction to frag them.

here... so no one is offended... I thought I was funny...

very nice man!! good looking tank!!!

Clear out some PMs and I will send ya one! but yes, I do have both of the chalices you mentioned... Actually, they are MrBret's growout..

I have what you are looking for!

got you covered!!

I want to clear things from my perspective, as a previous member of the admin team.... Kevin.... you are not being honest with regards to our conversations. I was never "nonchalant about the loss"... I was a realist.. I gave you a worst case scenario, meaning that we would have to start fresh… I pointed out the benefits…. New passwords, clean database, etc… then said “at least nobodies tanks when down as a result of this.” And laughed. I apologize if that’s what you construed as ‘nonchalant’… but it was still a reality when we spoke that Wednesday. Your concern was the loss of people from the forum, I also brushed that off… I still feel the way I said it to you… “If we lose members because the forums were hacked, then they were never loyal to begin with. In my opinion, the forums should be a tool for the community, not the other way around.” That is actually what I said to you… I also told you that I would do everything I possibly could to get this database loaded and attached to an upgraded version of the software. I asked for one more night before we assume the worst. The very next day I told you I had success. Even posted it on facebook as well. Which I did; The database finally did a clean upload, and I was able to pull it in and attach it to a new installation of Vbulletin. I also indicated to you that there were tons of details that had to be worked out still… That’s when I indicated that I had been up extremely late, and didn’t have time to do more than the basics… get the database and forums up. I did accomplish that!!!! I am sorry you couldn’t browse to the forums as it was during our conversation. This however does not take away from the fact that the admin staff was more capable then being portrayed here by you. I did not log back in until Saturday morning to continue working on the site. I had a PM request to fix MOD status for Brad only to discover that my admin rights had been removed. You can’t ‘accidently’ do this. My usergroup was changed from administrator to moderator. This can only be done by an admin, whom specifically moves you out of a group. I was removed, by Micah. No communication… just removed. Only after I some fallout did I get admin rights back. By that point… I was done. I did not want any part of whatever it was you guys were doing. Did the admin team fail… yes!! I take that on myself as an IT professional that I took certain things into assumption… first being the SQL backup… for god sakes, everyone knows to back that up on a regular basis… a very bad oversight… not to mention no disaster recovery plan… These are things that I know better than to let slide… but they did. To any defense, this was a service that had been previously provided by the host as part of the hosting service. It was only found out after the fact that they had stopped doing that quite awhile ago. Again, this is a failure of the staff that run the site, it should have been verified that we had regular backups… there is no argument or excuses there. With all of that being said… how did our leaders handle the situation? Our VP immediately starts his own site and starts soliciting sponsors from PNWMAS… why does this matter? If the intention was just a backup for PNWMAS… then why did you have to approach sponsors for support? If it’s to be tied into PNWMAS, then all that is needed is a heads up email to let them know. So ya, Micah, instead of doing everything in the background, you should have been open and up front if it was as you say it was. If so there would be nothing to hide. I see no reason to object to a backup fresh forum if things fail… and no need to keep that from the members.. I can only assume one reason for keeping this quite. There is even more to this… but I am honestly tired of even talking about it. What I see… a series of frustrated emotional decisions being made without any regard to their potential impact. I get why people are angry about the loss of 2 yrs of data… I was angry as well.. thus the reason I spent hours trying to fix it. What I don’t get, is why some really cool people turned on one another instead of pulling together to work within the guidelines to get things done. Why wasn’t there a conference call… email string to all the BOD and admin staff…. Some form of group communication to make sure everyone is on the same page… especially if everything was for the sake of club and community like you all claim. This is not just a failure on the admin staff, the leadership also needs to acknowledge their lack of appropriately handling the situation. Not to mention just showing some respect for people, for whom they are… no matter what knowledge level they have!!