reefgeek84 Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 Does anyone local carry starboard? I want to add this to my glass tank on the bottom under the sand, just in case a rock falls or something...so I have a little more added protection to prevent the tank from cracking. I found some online that will match sand color very well, but for the order they charge 15 bucks for the small order fee...so maybe it would be cheaper local. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impur Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 If its going under the sand, just head over to walmart and pickup a few cheapo cutting boards. Thats all starboard is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reefgeek84 Posted April 30, 2007 Author Share Posted April 30, 2007 If its going under the sand' date=' just head over to walmart and pickup a few cheapo cutting boards. Thats all starboard is.[/quote'] Oh, I had heard that...just did not know if it was true.Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 Tap Plastics on Sandy always has HDPE in their scraps bin. It's had to beat their scrap price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reefgeek84 Posted April 30, 2007 Author Share Posted April 30, 2007 Tap Plastics on Sandy always has HDPE in their scraps bin. It's had to beat their scrap price. it is HDPE? I will have to stop by tap plastics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R-3 Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 Nice Andy! I drove by there today on my way home and thought about stopping in to see what they had. Good to know. Later Ryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J & Jr Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 if you can't find what you need at tap you might call Laird Plastics the use to have a good selection of hdpe in their scrap bins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 Yeah, it's all HDPE -- though they try to 'sell up' Starboard... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reefhut Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 Starboard Call Ferguson in Tigard (503-620-9211). Everyone knows them for there PVC fitting's and plumbing supplies. I was there and noticed they had sheets of that stuff in different thickness in stock! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reefgeek84 Posted May 1, 2007 Author Share Posted May 1, 2007 Call Ferguson in Tigard (503-620-9211). Everyone knows them for there PVC fitting's and plumbing supplies. I was there and noticed they had sheets of that stuff in different thickness in stock! Sweet!!!! Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrylics Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 FWIW guys, Starboard & Seaboard are not *just* HDPE. They are UV stabilized HDPE, so it resists degradation due to UV radiation. It is designed and generally sold for the boating industry where it's exposed to UV on a daily basis. Because of this, they are superior products for the purpose intended and would explain a shop trying to "sell it up". If you call asking for Starboard or Seaboard, the shop is going to assume you are using for a boat, a purpose for which standard HDPE is ill-suited. James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kriswaters Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 Multicraft in Tigard has huge scrap bins as well. Kris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reefgeek84 Posted May 1, 2007 Author Share Posted May 1, 2007 FWIW guys, Starboard & Seaboard are not *just* HDPE. They are UV stabilized HDPE, so it resists degradation due to UV radiation. It is designed and generally sold for the boating industry where it's exposed to UV on a daily basis. Because of this, they are superior products for the purpose intended and would explain a shop trying to "sell it up". If you call asking for Starboard or Seaboard, the shop is going to assume you are using for a boat, a purpose for which standard HDPE is ill-suited. James this is very good to know...Do you know anyone who sells it locally? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 James, are you saying that rigid HDPE isn't suitable for in-tank use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrylics Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 I'm sure West Marine does but you'll pay for it I buy mine from local distributors such as Port Plastics, Laird Plastics, etc. I don't think many actually stock it as there's not much call (here) but it is commonly stocked in the Seattle branches so when I need it, I have the distributors transfer it down for me. I usually get the Seaboard, is cheaper and there's no need to get thicker than 1/4" IMO. James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reefgeek84 Posted May 1, 2007 Author Share Posted May 1, 2007 I'm sure West Marine does but you'll pay for it I buy mine from local distributors such as Port Plastics, Laird Plastics, etc. I don't think many actually stock it as there's not much call (here) but it is commonly stocked in the Seattle branches so when I need it, I have the distributors transfer it down for me. I usually get the Seaboard, is cheaper and there's no need to get thicker than 1/4" IMO. James interesting....I do not suppose you are putting an order in anytime soon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrylics Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 Andy, No, I'm not saying that in any way. I am saying that standard HDPE is ill-suited for boat decking (the purpose for which Starboard & Seaboard were designed), it degrades under constant UV radiation. I'm not sure how long sumberged HDPE takes to degrade nor how much UVB is actually getting to it, so I can't honestly make that assessment. Just trying to explain why a shop may suggest or "sell up" Starboard & Seaboard. There are distinct differences between plain HDPE and the Starbard/Seaboard, whether the differences are important for our purposes is subject to debate/opinion. Of course getting "sandshade" colored HDPE is not easy unless you get the one of the 2 mentioned brands above James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrylics Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 Reefgeek, I rarely use it as acrylic has plenty of impact resistance so don't worry about it for that purpose. The only times I have used it is when a customer wants a sandshade colored barebottom tank, then I'll order it. Getting acrylic custom made for this purpose is prohibitively expensive. James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 Thanks James, that's what I thought you meant but I wanted to be sure -- it'd suck to have HDPE melt-down in the substrate... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrylics Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 Nah, doesn't "melt down" at all, just fractures IME. Nothing to worry about, just not all that attractive James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reefgeek84 Posted May 1, 2007 Author Share Posted May 1, 2007 Thanks for all the help James...I think I am going to just buck up and get the starboard that is matched to sand in case some of the real sand moves and the starboard becomes exposed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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