lucid Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 Firefish are doing very well, have an established hole/home in a rock, and have been eating vigorously anytime food is placed in tank. They seem to be doing well, have had them for 1.5 weeks. I was wanting some insight on my next fish; i know i want a niger trigger, melanarus wrasse, 2 clowns (that will most likely host my torch coral), and possibly a tang. Which of these do you advise i get first? I heard niger's have been known to be aggressive and eat other fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanktop74 Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 I would go for clowns next! Hardy fish!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucid Posted November 9, 2010 Author Share Posted November 9, 2010 I would go for clowns next! Hardy fish!! I was leaning toward the black and white clownies, they seem more intelligent. What are most likely to host? And arent the black and whites more spendy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgf86123 Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 Depends on where you get them, but yes, B&W's are generally more expensive, check with Nick at RoseCity, and as for hosting, it's hit or miss, they'll host what they want to host, not what you want them to host LOL. I'd save the wrasse for last, get the tang before the wrasse, and possibly hold off on a triger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 ..... I heard niger's have been known to be aggressive and eat other fish. Not likely unless you just toss the new fish in. I just feed my Niger trigger at one end of the tank to keep it occupied and then put the new fish in on the other. I also usually use my hand to put them in and release them down near the rocks where they are not going to be noticed immediately. The exception of course will be things like lionfish or eels that are either poisonous or can make a nasty bite. With 3 different niger triggers the only live fish any ate was a chromis that I just tossed in one day without thinking. (I moved it from another tank here where it was being a pest) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 To add to the above. I would hold off not just for last on the wrasse but rather for several months. They are pod eaters and it will take 6 months or more (a year would be better) to get a nice healthy pod population. The tang will depend upon the type and the size of your tank. (Avoid tangs entirely if you have less than a 75 gallons tank) A bristeltooth tang might be the best for a next fish if your algae is a bit out of control. (A normal situation for new tanks) Clowns are very hardy however they are not really a cleaner and will pretty much do nothing more than increase the bioload in the early stages which actually makes it take longer for the tank to stabilize. In the early stages (up to 6 months or a year) I would focus on fish that aid in the tank maintenance. (Sand shifting goby, algae blenny, bristletooth tangs, etc.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CA2OR Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 Get the wrasse....jmo Sent from my DROID2 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucid Posted November 9, 2010 Author Share Posted November 9, 2010 A Wrasse should be ok to have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CA2OR Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 That wrasse is great. Totally community fish, no aggressions towards others, except the same sex of the same kinda wrasse Sent from my DROID2 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucid Posted November 9, 2010 Author Share Posted November 9, 2010 Is there anywhere i can order them online? Cant find a melanarus from liveaquaria Rose City didnt have any either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucid Posted November 9, 2010 Author Share Posted November 9, 2010 Thinking about getting 2 black saddle clownish, are they good fish? I want them to try and get hosted by my Torch Coral Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoobtoSalt Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 If mine are easy to catch I will sell you mine. Pm me for details. They currently host a long tentacle anemone. Thinking about getting 2 black saddle clownish' date=' are they good fish? I want them to try and get hosted by my Torch Coral[/quote'] Sent from my SCH-I500 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gill Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 Thinking about getting 2 black saddle clownish' date=' are they good fish? I want them to try and get hosted by my Torch Coral[/quote'] I think the perc or false pecrs are much nicer JMO There is a member on the forum who breeds them too (naughty) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gill Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 P.S. what size tank? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgf86123 Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 If you are going to get a melanarus, wait til you have added all of the other fish you want to add, make sure it is the LAST fish added. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucid Posted November 10, 2010 Author Share Posted November 10, 2010 Got 2 decent size black and whites from Rose City for a great price. drip acclimated them for 2 hours, now they are doing their usual fast breathing and hiding out in the DT. How long should i expect them to act this way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgf86123 Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 It varies from fish to fish, just be patient dude, trust me, if you can't be patient with this hobby, you're never going to be able to sit back and enjoy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucid Posted November 24, 2010 Author Share Posted November 24, 2010 Saddles are both doing great now, seems they have settled in. I was thinking either a trigger or a tang next. Would a trigger be aggressive towards my other fish, and what negatives do they have? Also, what kind of tang would you suggest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topher Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 my fire fish would never come pout unless it was time to eat. the coaral beauty and sailfine chased it some so it got very shy.it is now in the frag tank and it is alot more comfortable there with the cole tang and wrasse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilmca Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 what size tank? like Rick said if it's not a 75g tank or larger I wouldn't recommend a tang either. if the tank is approximately 75g i would recommend a bristletooth(kole, tomini, etc) or a small scopas or yellow tang. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucid Posted November 24, 2010 Author Share Posted November 24, 2010 It's a 55g. Someone told me: it's totally fine as long as i plan on upgrading within 2 years, i can get a small blue hippo or any small tang. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trautman Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 just be ready to deal with ich of you get a tang. 'nuff said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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