WAVES Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 http://takeaction.oceana.org/dia/organizationsORG/oceana/campaign.jsp?campaign_KEY=6451&utm_source=20070108_eNews&utm_medium=email&utm_content=All Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piero Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 Thanks Joel, good to see someone else getting that newsletter!(clap) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drock59 Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 ridiculous, are they joking? Honestly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronjunior Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 ridiculous' date=' are they joking? Honestly.[/quote'] Says it's currently unavailable, but doesn't say why for all varieties of soup. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product//B0001RIQLW/ref=cm_rv_thx_view/002-4674713-8452848 BUT Their Shark fin cartildge powder is up for sale, hopefully it will be next! http://www.amazon.com/Shark-Fin-Cartilage-Powder-200gram/dp/B000637IIS/ http://www.amazon.com/Shark-Fin-Cartilage-600mg-100-VegCap/dp/B00028NFBG/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowman Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 Here is the response I got from them about it Greetings from Amazon.com. Thank you for writing to us with your comments regarding the sale of shark fin soup on our web site. We have great respect for your concerns. One of our goals as an online retailer is to offer our customers the ability to purchase a wide variety of products on our site. It is unfortunate but inevitable that some of our customers may find a few of these items objectionable. Please note that the items in our Gourmet store are offered by third-party merchants -- they are not sold directly by Amazon.com. Some of these particular listings are now no longer available for sale on our site. We always value customer feedback, and we have passed along your desire that we exclude items of this sort from our site. Thank you again for taking the time to contact us at Amazon.com. Sincerely, Customer Service Amazon.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAVES Posted January 9, 2007 Author Share Posted January 9, 2007 ya I got the same thing. Are they like Ebay? can you put anything up for sale as a private seller? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronjunior Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 Get the Discovery Channel to do a "special attention" episode about this, show what's up for sale, show an hour of footage of bandits chopping off the fins and dumping the rest, go back to displaying what's for sale on Amazon's website every so often. Bet you 2 bits it will be off Amazon.com in a hearbeat out of view! How about the major national network news channels, this sounds worthy to me; I just wonder how long its been on there. Amazon's response to Lowman is a load of horse manuki! If someone was selling drugs, child porn, prostitution, etc. etc., is that how they react? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swilson Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 I think more focus needs to go to the companies that make these products. There really aren't that many. I just watched this on the discovery channel a couple nights ago. Should pull up a picture of them actually catching a shark and cutting off the fins and throwing it back in the water. Maybe that part would get someones attention. Okay, looked up some more info for those people who no nothing of this --- http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=2616156&page=1 (scratch) (scratch) I'll accept that this used to be a custom (when they used to eat the entire shark), but when did this mass stealing of animal parts become okay -- just like the stealing of ivory off of elephants Stupid people, where do they all come from Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swilson Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 Another great site I found someones blog that actually has a youtube that shows what they do for this entree. You have to see this video. http://drbenkim.com/blog/2006/11/shark-fin-soup-please-say-no.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reefgeek84 Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 ya I got the same thing. Are they like Ebay? can you put anything up for sale as a private seller? Yes, the have an option of selling stuff as a third party and they simply provide the platform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy-S Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 Have we serched there site for dried seahorse yet?? Or Tiger blood or gorrilla hand ash trays? You think they would be more aware of there own stock and merchandise for sell. Or is Amazon stand for were they collect there goods to sell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holly Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 That third party thing is a load of BS. Ebay and Amazon both are private companies and have the power to refuse service to anyone for any reason (or no reason at all). When OJ's new book came out recently ("If I Did It"), the publishing company quickly decided not to print any more because of the public outcry against it--and the woman publisher was canned.(YAY) A few people that had copies already tried to sell them on Ebay; Ebay pulled the plug on the auction because it was becoming a public disaster. http://federalism.typepad.com/crime_federalism/2006/11/ebay_shuts_down.html The prob is that shark-fin soup doesn't get the national attn that OJ's disgusting book did, so Ebay doesn't give a crap... Amazon's the same way. It's all about the almighty $$$ until it becomes a publicity issue. I hope I get that form e-letter, because I'm gonna let them have it in a nicely researched reply back to them... (wife) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holly Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 Quote from Amazon's TOS: "Amazon Services and its affiliates reserve the right to refuse service, terminate accounts, or remove or edit content in their sole discretion" http://www.amazonservices.com/terms/ Claiming they aren't aware of stuff on their site is yet another a load of manure. I bet if I listed a woman for sale (some guy in the Philippines did that on Ebay), they'd know about it and pull it off immediately (like Ebay did). They have to monitor what's on their site to make sure nothing illegal is being done for which they could be held (even indirectly) liable, like selling drugs or sex, etc. Even a barrage of 'we're not-responsible for content' disclaimers can't completely protect them, and they know that. I HATE corporate companies like this. Walmart's the worst, but all of them don't give a crap about anything but profits at any cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAVES Posted January 9, 2007 Author Share Posted January 9, 2007 at the bottom of the nice form letter was a statement regarding "do not reply to this email". Naturally they dont want to have to read anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holly Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 No problemo. Found this info online and copy/pasted for ya: Looking for the Amazon.com customer service phone number? You certainly won't find it on their site. In fact, it only shows up on the page that appears immediately after you place an order. But first, a note about calling Amazon.com customer service. Remember when calling Amazon.com customer service that you've got something in common with the representative you'll talk to on the phone. You've both been put in a crappy situation by the management of Amazon. Amazon's decision not to put their customer service on their "Help" or "Contact Us" pages means that after you experience a problem you end up searching for their number for an unreasonable amount of time. After you finally find it, you call the number and then are put on hold for quite a while as well. Chances are, you're frustrated, angry, and at the end of your rope by the time a customer service rep answers. But that rep is also feeling the effects of Amazon's decision. The person on the phone isn't a member of management with decision-making power. They're somebody that needed a job, and they took this one. Amazon's decision to withhold the phone number from their customers means that everybody they talk to is like you: frustrated, angry, and at the end of their rope. It's got to make their job really hard. Wouldn't it suck to have to talk to people who are pissed off all day long for eight hours a day? I'd hate to come to work! So, when you call, try to keep in mind that you and your customer service rep are in the same boat. You can bet that they're having a terrible day. Also, especially if you are ordering books or CDs, remember that your local independent stores are likely to be able to order anything that you want if they don't already have it in stock; and chances are, their customer service will be a lot better. You may not get the deep discounts available at Amazon, but, as you've probably already learned if you're reading this, you get what you pay for. Happy shopping! The numbers! US Customer Service Phone toll-free in the US and Canada: (800) 201-7575 Phone from outside the US and Canada: (206) 346-2992 or (206)-266-2992 Another direct line: (206) 266-2335 E-mail address and the fax numbers seem to go on- and off-line with some regularity. Readers have also had luck with the following addresses: resolution@amazon.com charge-inquiries@amazon.com jeff@amazon.com Snail mail to customer service Amazon.com, Inc. Customer Service PO Box 81226 Seattle, WA 98108-1226 They also have special e-mail accounts for spoofing and abuse: stop-spoofing@amazon.com reports@amazon.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reefgeek84 Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 That third party thing is a load of BS. Ebay and Amazon both are private companies and have the power to refuse service to anyone for any reason (or no reason at all). When OJ's new book came out recently ("If I Did It"), the publishing company quickly decided not to print any more because of the public outcry against it--and the woman publisher was canned.(YAY) A few people that had copies already tried to sell them on Ebay; Ebay pulled the plug on the auction because it was becoming a public disaster. http://federalism.typepad.com/crime_federalism/2006/11/ebay_shuts_down.html The prob is that shark-fin soup doesn't get the national attn that OJ's disgusting book did, so Ebay doesn't give a crap... Amazon's the same way. It's all about the almighty $$$ until it becomes a publicity issue. I hope I get that form e-letter, because I'm gonna let them have it in a nicely researched reply back to them... (wife) Yes it is...but that is there excuse... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reefgeek84 Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 at the bottom of the nice form letter was a statement regarding "do not reply to this email". Naturally they dont want to have to read anything else. I bet if you did reply you would get a failure notice. that is a very generic response they send out to probably thousands of people a day. So they have a mail system that will not accept e-mails back. They say that to save you the trouble of wasting your time writing back. I do however think, it become a real convince, for them that they can not receive mails back from that and make you go through the paces of tracking down another email to send it to...I do agree with you Joel, they do not want to hear about it or deal with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mister crabs Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 If you call amazon's customer service line you most likely will get connected to I-sky which is a call center in bend that does outbound sales followup calls for major auto makers and handlesthe bulk of the amazon inbound calls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piero Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 From Oceana, We recently asked for your help to convince online mega-retailer, Amazon, to remove canned shark fin soup from its virtual shelves. Within hours, 14,000 WaveMakers contacted Amazon about this issue and in response, Amazon discontinued the sale of Roland's shark fin soup. While the Amazon effort focused on shark finning--cutting off the shark's fins while it is still alive, and then tossing the body back into to the sea--sharks are also at risk from other fishing practices. Tens of millions of sharks are accidentally caught each year as victims of dirty fishing or bycatch. Despite the mounting evidence of shark overfishing and depletion, few countries restrict shark fishing or bycatch. We're working to get the EU to implement fishing laws to protect sharks. Europe is home to some of the world's largest fishing fleets and its powerful fisheries officials influence international fishing restrictions in many regions of the globe. As a result, poor European shark policies pose threats to sharks not only in European waters but in other parts of the world as well. This is the first of what we hope will be many ocean victories in 2007! For the oceans, Suzanne Garrett Campaign Project Manager Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronjunior Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Now they've got shark meat and still hundreds of shark cartilage, liver oil products, etc. etc.. http://www.amazon.com/Great-Gourmet-Fresh-Mako-Shark/dp/B00016JHAM/sr=8-2/qid=1169673832/ref=pd_bbs_2/103-0992124-5691811?ie=UTF8&s=gourmet-food http://www.amazon.com/Great-Gourmet-Fresh-Mako-Shark/dp/B00020H33U/sr=8-4/qid=1169673832/ref=pd_bbs_4/103-0992124-5691811?ie=UTF8&s=gourmet-food Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reefgeek84 Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Now they've got shark meat and still hundreds of shark cartilage, liver oil products, etc. etc.. http://www.amazon.com/Great-Gourmet-Fresh-Mako-Shark/dp/B00016JHAM/sr=8-2/qid=1169673832/ref=pd_bbs_2/103-0992124-5691811?ie=UTF8&s=gourmet-food http://www.amazon.com/Great-Gourmet-Fresh-Mako-Shark/dp/B00020H33U/sr=8-4/qid=1169673832/ref=pd_bbs_4/103-0992124-5691811?ie=UTF8&s=gourmet-food I do not know anything about this...however, if they are using most of the shark and it is not depleating the populations. I have no problem with this. It is just like fishing other fish...tuna, cod, snapper, salmon, etc. The big thing with shark fin soup, is that they catch the shark, cut the fin off and then throw it back into the ocean and that is it. It would be like only raising cattle for top sirloin and then dumping the rest of the cow back on the farm. Again, I do not know much about this sort of use of the shark...if it is anything like the fins, then it should be stopped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impur Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 I got this email today Dear Miles, We recently asked for your help to convince online mega-retailer, Amazon, to remove canned shark fin soup from its virtual shelves. Within hours, 14,000 of you had contacted Amazon about this issue and in response, Amazon discontinued the sale of Roland's shark fin soup. While the Amazon effort focused on shark finning--cutting off the shark's fins while it is still alive, and then tossing the body back into to the sea--sharks are also at risk from other fishing practices. Tens of millions of sharks are accidentally caught each year as victims of dirty fishing or bycatch. Despite the mounting evidence of shark overfishing and depletion, few countries restrict shark fishing or bycatch. We're working to get the EU to implement fishing laws to protect sharks. Europe is home to some of the world's largest fishing fleets and its powerful fisheries officials influence international fishing restrictions in many regions of the globe. As a result, poor European shark policies pose threats to sharks not only in European waters but in other parts of the world as well. Thanks again for taking the time to contact Amazon and being part of Oceana's first 2007 victory. For the oceans, Suzanne Garrett Campaign Project Manager P.S. To find out more about sharks see our coalition website www.sharkalliance.org. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impur Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 Oh, Piero beat me to it lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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