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$25 mike!! Ive just added some more stuff aswell!

Nyles beat everyone to the punch :( I have some nice new stuff youll dig spipe. Naw I had an emergency come up and couldnt make it to C&S. Kinda bummed about it ;(.

I got some atreas ill throw in to sweeten the deal. Save these poor souls from being puffer food.

Buy it all for $30 mike!

Still up for sale. This is great stuff folks!

Bumpidy! Come-on!

Sold!............

http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=15955&Nty=1&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntk=All&pc=1&N=0&Ntt=koralia&Np=1 Koralia Nano 240 gph 3.5 2" x 3"

Ill sell the whole lot for $30! I will even throw in some goodies!

I only have the 55g left! Someone take this baby off my hands!! Its just waiting to be used and for a chance to shine!

Yeah and its still for sale!! These things are sweet, I would easily consider them the best bang for the buck. I have 3 currently in my tank and sold 2 a few weeks back. Koralias kickass!

Above is correc. ^_^

What did you 'call me on'? All I stated was after proper research AND testing I concluded UV was not worth it to me. Never said it didnt work, infact I think I made a strong statement FOR it working. I just mentioned it kills good as well as bad. You seem good at twisting things around. And 'spewing' copy and pasted facts.. Isnt that why we read and research? Site your sources? If you can find a place where i either.. 1. 'ridiculed' someone 2. provided false information I would be happy to accept your verbal, lashings. But until then you can use them on someoen else, thanks

Alright buddy. I think the OP got what information he wanted and hopefully he will continue his reasearch to find what really works and why it works. And you can continue to start arguements and continue your personal attacks on someone else. Also, I would like to point out I do not believe I have 'ridiculed' anyone.

Oh goodness, now it went from three pages of people throwing suggestions and others debating them to you attacking a persons charactor. I find replying to you very easy as you just throw out uneducated random information. First, there is a cure for ick, OH WAIT, theres TWO! Copper and hyposalinity are both PROVEN cures to ick. Heres the science as I like to backup what I say with something substantial. "By lowering the salinity, you will also be lowering the osmotic pressure of the water. The parasites NEED high osmotic pressure to convert saline water into freshwater. All marine animals need freshwater as we do [these parasites are considered marine animals as well, BTW]. They just convert it differently, usually via their tissues. Reduce this necessary pressure and the ich will die. As a higher life form, the fish will do fine with this short-term treatment." <--- kills all ich. No matter what stage of life they are in nor where they are at. ie, substraite/fish/LR. Anyways, good luck to the OP. Most if not all of what ive posted you can simply research yourself and find substantial and in-dept information, as its science and not opinion.

http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=10668&Nty=1&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntk=All&pc=1&N=0&Ntt=scwd&Np=1 I have one and it worked great. Ive switched from a reef to FOWLR so no need for one anymore. $15 - thats 50% off and you dont have to pay for shipping!!

Ok here we go.. First things first. Lets say the 'good guys(whatever you want to imply they are, inverts, hitchhikers, filter feeders whatever) outnumber the 'bad guys' in the water column 2:1. I think we can all agree its prolly more. In that case, when you run water through a UV you are essentially trying to kill the free floaters. Since good outnumbers bad 2:1 you are killing twice as much good as bad. And thats just using logic, in reality theres nothing that it shows it kills anything. If there are any questions about UV and what not, there are many educated people on RC that will provide the science to backup what I am saying. Also I think the fact that I just sold a UV speaks wonders on how affective its been seen to be. Atleast for me that is.

Have one koralia nano for sale... Drf&s sell them for $29.99+ shipping. Ill do $20.

Def a nice deal, im almost contemplating a small reef .

UV kills free floating objects if the flow is low enough and the wattage high enough and the bulb is changed every 4-6 months. It also is not a cure. Also note that it will kill beneficial things in the water column as well. I have no comments about ozone as ive never researched of used it.

In that case I would agree. If you simply want healthy fish and to remove the ick from the fish only, a proper diet in line with good water quality will do wonders.

no sympathy here. I think were all just trying to live vicariously through you and your sweet house and setup

Im goin to disagree. The cure is hypo/copper coupled with leaving the sand/rock and everything seperate from fish for 5 weeks. Ich MUST have a fish to host or it will die. In the same regard a human is not going to get sick if he is in a sterile envoirment even if he has a low immune system. You or your fish cant get sick if theres no virus there.

Cleaner shrimp are in the same category as any of the "cure ick meds" as all a shrimp does(which is speculation) is clean the active ich off the fish, it does nothing to remove anything for the substrate or water column, again it just removes the symptoms off the fish but does far far from curing anything.

Could I trouble you for photos of the 72g bowfront. And are you willing to negotiate on the price?