Ninjabeaver Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Is anyone here using Eheim Compact+ 5000 for their return pump? http://www.amazon.com/EHEIM-Compact-Pump-Gallons-5000L/dp/B0018CDWL8/ref=pd_sbs_petsupplies_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=1VWXVT126VE48DYN0BW9 I am considering this for a replacement or for new build...also liking the prices and power of the Jebao DC ones. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 I have used an Eheim compact before and they are great pumps, quiet also. The Jaebo pumps also have great reviews. Personally I like the Dc pumps, the feed mode and adjustable flow are super handy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spilo Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 I have no complaints with my jebao dc12000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rworegon Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Never used the compact, but I've got two eheim 1262 pumps doing duty as return pumps. They are pretty bulletproof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micah Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Never used the compact, but I've got two eheim 1262 pumps doing duty as return pumps. They are pretty bulletproof. +1. I am using the 1262. It's quiet and has given me ZERO issues. I have a DC pump to replace it with and I haven't done it because "If it aint broke, don't fix it". eheim makes good stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pledosophy Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 I have a few Eheim 1262's but I did replace my return pump with a Jeabo DC model. I find it to be a bit quieter and I like the feed option. It also uses less energy. Every pump on my system is now a DC, even the skimmer. I am kind of a freak about noise, so, it was worth it to me. Before switching to DC pumps, Eheims were my go to. I have owned several different models and always been happy. Never a problem IME. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninjabeaver Posted December 19, 2014 Author Share Posted December 19, 2014 RIght now on my 40 I have an ecoplus or eco something 1152, I forget and I'm at work, but I don't feel like it moves enough water. Thanks for sharing your experiences with Jebao and Eheim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pledosophy Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 What kind of movement you lookin for? I run about 3x tank volume thru my sump per hour and am pretty happy in the 3-5 range. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninjabeaver Posted December 23, 2014 Author Share Posted December 23, 2014 I don't really know...everything is OK...I just feel like the return is pretty sluggish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombertech Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 When the sump turnover is low, it gives your skimmer and other filtration (biological/mechanical/chemical) time to clean the water. With sumps, some factors for determining minimum flow that I use are maintaing temperature in the display, and enough flow to efficiently pull detrius out of the display. The primary flow is from the wave makers, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pledosophy Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 On my 120g I have a Jebao 6000 on the lowest setting. I estimate after head loss and scwd that I get a not less then 3x turnover an hour. I'm pretty happy with it. I could go higher and get to 10x literally with the push of a button, but I like the lower flow through the sump. For water movement in the tank I use 2 WP 40's and a Koralis. If your looking for more movement from the return, you might look into the penductors. I think they are sold as flow accelerators. They attach to your loc line and increase the power of the water movement out of the return. IME I prefer to keep the flow through the sump as low as possible, basically fast enough for the heater to work. JMO Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninjabeaver Posted December 23, 2014 Author Share Posted December 23, 2014 Then I am probably just right where I need to be on the 40b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pledosophy Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 If the flow through the sump is good but flow in the tank is lacking those Penductors are pretty cool IME. I've run them On all my non seahorse tanks for 10 years or so. The spinning one doesn't work IME but the strait penductors are pretty nifty Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninjabeaver Posted December 24, 2014 Author Share Posted December 24, 2014 If the flow through the sump is good but flow in the tank is lacking those Penductors are pretty cool IME. I've run them On all my non seahorse tanks for 10 years or so. The spinning one doesn't work IME but the strait penductors are pretty nifty Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Maybe I will get one of those for my 75 that I picked up today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pledosophy Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 75! Nice. Can't wait for te build thread. If you wanna try one, I might have an extra laying around. You can have it. Christmas spirit and all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninjabeaver Posted December 24, 2014 Author Share Posted December 24, 2014 75! Nice. Can't wait for te build thread. If you wanna try one, I might have an extra laying around. You can have it. Christmas spirit and all. Sounds good!... I need to drill a return line... Paint inside and back of tank. I will start a build thread as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icepikbiker Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 On my 120g I have a Jebao 6000 on the lowest setting. I estimate after head loss and scwd that I get a not less then 3x turnover an hour. I'm pretty happy with it. I could go higher and get to 10x literally with the push of a button, but I like the lower flow through the sump. For water movement in the tank I use 2 WP 40's and a Koralis. If your looking for more movement from the return, you might look into the penductors. I think they are sold as flow accelerators. They attach to your loc line and increase the power of the water movement out of the return. IME I prefer to keep the flow through the sump as low as possible, basically fast enough for the heater to work. JMO Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk After looking at the numbers of the Jebao's either my set up is very restrictive or their numbers are off, maybe the flow just looks slower then what it really is. After looking it up the DC-6000 runs 1585 GPH with six settings that's about 264 GPH/ level. At MY head loss (6ft) it looses about half its power, so ~132gph turnover. *All based off Jebao's flow graph.* I'm running a DC-12000 on the fourth level in my ~100 gal total system volume. Based on their graph again at MY head height I'm running about 1232 gal/hr turnover. Thank you for posting your what I thought were low numbers, but actually your numbers made me realize I'm running way to much water through my sump. Maybe Ill try one of those accelerators to fool my eyes. lol. Right now I've got two of the flat tips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pledosophy Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Really glad it helped you. I've always tried to keep the sump turnover low and then run a closed loop for the flow in the tank. I switched from that to powerheads for all the wave action and love them now. So much I do not mind the look of a powerhead in my display, which was something I said i would never have. Just to easy. Edit: Here is a link to what I use Flow Accelerator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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