impur Posted January 15, 2007 Posted January 15, 2007 I have a small zoa frag that is growing on some rock the size of a pea. But out of this tiny pebble of LR is a massive amt of bryopsis. I removed the frag and using tweezers have been plucking the bryopsis but 2 days later its twice as thick and twice as tall!!!! I'm afraid it will smother the zoas, is there something i can do to get rid of it? What do you think about plucking all the stalks then covering all the rock with superglue, all the way to the flesh of the zoa? Will that work? I've never had this stuff before it sucks!! Here is the frag, hermans reds Quote
reefgeek84 Posted January 16, 2007 Posted January 16, 2007 Faxface rabbit fish ... You might try prodibio...in the tank...but my foxface wiped it out. this is a tough algae to get rid of... Quote
impur Posted January 16, 2007 Author Posted January 16, 2007 Hmm maybe i'll have to find someone with a foxface and just put my frag in their tank. Thanks for the heads up. Quote
fly guy Posted January 16, 2007 Posted January 16, 2007 Blow torch Hitting it with boiling water in a syringe will soften it and allow some fish to eat it. But it will come back if they dont continue. If you can cover any tufts in glue or epoxy that will kill it as well if you cover it well with no paths to grow out. To truly kill it. Blow torch Quote
impur Posted January 16, 2007 Author Posted January 16, 2007 Hrm i can't torch it. I'll kill the zoos. I'll try the glue and see how it goes. I'm amazed how fast it grows back after i cut it. Quote
reefgeek84 Posted January 16, 2007 Posted January 16, 2007 if it does not go away and you are up here, you are welcome to put it in my tank...if you make regular trips up here... Quote
josh Posted January 16, 2007 Posted January 16, 2007 I've had some headaches with this stuff, man, don't let it spread, kill it while you have a chance. I'd try the superglue smother. A kalkwasser paste will also kill it off. I've had luck with the kalkwasser paste, haven't tried the superglue smother but I think its probably the best. Chunks of kalkwasser paste floating around kind of stinks, burns corals if it sits on them. Nothing else I've tried works. Boiling water hurts it for awhile but it charges back. Lettuce leaf nudibranchs don't phase it (IME), and neither due sea hares. I was inches from getting a foxface but a little scared of them. Then my bryopis dissappeared! It was one of two things, a phosphate remover I put in (phos-x I think, not sure), or putting a chunk of it in my sump. I think it was the phosphate remover, I believe it was supposed to absorb silicates and other stuff as well. There are still tiny bits of bryopsis but nothing compared to the ever growing patch I pulled out weekly and still lost ground to. Good Luck!! Quote
Michael7979 Posted January 16, 2007 Posted January 16, 2007 Can you re-frag the zoas? Put them on a different plug. Quote
SeanF Posted January 16, 2007 Posted January 16, 2007 I have had a few customers report good luck with the lettuce nudibranchs I guess it just depends on if you get a hungry one or not. Quote
Twitterbait Posted January 16, 2007 Posted January 16, 2007 it is pure evil... blow torch is about the only thing i have found. you could try to remove the seperate polyps then toss the rock. good luck Quote
impur Posted January 16, 2007 Author Posted January 16, 2007 I'm gonna try and cover it all in super glue. Luckily we are talking a small piece of rock, but its amazing how much of that algae is coming out of it. I swear it grew an inch yesterday. Quote
Nyles Posted January 16, 2007 Posted January 16, 2007 Miles you may want to try the lettuce, I got one and after thinking about it, thats when my algae disappeared. However I think it finally croaked after 6 months of good eating... need another one for sure. Quote
R2R2 Posted January 17, 2007 Posted January 17, 2007 I'm not sure if I have ever seen a LN actually eating the stuff. Tuxedo urchin would be a good bet, Queen Conch maybe, rabbitfish, bicolor parrot, ... Quote
impur Posted January 17, 2007 Author Posted January 17, 2007 Well i scraped as much as i could off and covered all the rock i could get to with super glue. The polyps aren't happy, but they should get over it soon. Quote
Nyles Posted January 17, 2007 Posted January 17, 2007 have to keep an eye, I know the tux will eat it but cant get where a LN can, I have both and they are both good cleaners. Quote
impur Posted January 17, 2007 Author Posted January 17, 2007 Well polyps were open this morning so the glue didn't piss em off for too long, I see maybe 2 stalks of the stuff still poking out about a 1/4". By this weekend they should be 6" long so i'll cut em and smother them then. Quote
Randy-S Posted January 17, 2007 Posted January 17, 2007 How is the treatment going on your other zoas? Quote
impur Posted January 17, 2007 Author Posted January 17, 2007 Its stalled. I am getting some Furan-2 tonight and gonna give that a shot. They aren't getting better, but they are disappearing much slower. I'm happy about that, gives me time to try some things. The pods are sure munching away at the polyps though, i found some wierd bright yellow pods yesterday. Quote
reefgeek84 Posted January 17, 2007 Posted January 17, 2007 have to keep an eye' date=' I know the tux will eat it but cant get where a LN can, I have both and they are both good cleaners.[/quote'] Nyles, when the LN died, it did not do anything to your tank? also do they eat all kinds of algae, I have some turf algae that I would really like to get rid of. Quote
impur Posted January 17, 2007 Author Posted January 17, 2007 Nyles' date=' when the LN died, it did not do anything to your tank? also do they eat all kinds of algae, I have some turf algae that I would really like to get rid of.[/quote'] You and me both. I hate that stuff. I'm gonna cook my rock and try to rid it that way. Quote
reefgeek84 Posted January 17, 2007 Posted January 17, 2007 You and me both. I hate that stuff. I'm gonna cook my rock and try to rid it that way. Yeah I can not do that, my rock holds to many corals...I think my light is whats causing it because where there is alot less light, it does not grow at all...I know that nutrients cause it, but I think the light is helping it...so maybe a LN will take care of it... Sorry, did not mean to hijack your thread. Quote
fly guy Posted January 17, 2007 Posted January 17, 2007 . I'm gonna cook my rock and try to rid it that way. FYI--cooking alone wont do it unless you do it for a LONG time. Even after 3 months of cooking, scrubbing and swishing violently in between each weekly water change.......i still had the crap come back. This is with ZERO problem algae of any other kind popping up in the tank. The stuff is satan. I got pissed off a month ago.........cut or fragged the sps that were encrusted on rocks, dissassembled my tank, removed the rocks with bryopsis and blow torched the stuff. Its hard to see every little tuft when the rock is out of the water so i DID miss a couple of spots.......i just loooked closely every day and covered any sprouts i saw with epoxy. I THINK i have finally beat it Quote
impur Posted January 17, 2007 Author Posted January 17, 2007 FYI--cooking it wont do it unless you do it for a LONG time. Even after 3 months of cooking, scrubbing and swishing violently in between each weekly water change.......i still had the crap come back. This is with ZERO problem algae of any other kind popping up in the tank. The stuff is satan. I got pissed off a month ago.........cut or fragged the sps that were encrusted on rocks, dissassembled my tank, removed the rocks with bryopsis and blow torched the stuff. Its hard to see every little tuft when the rock is out of the water so i DID miss a couple of spots.......i just loooked closely every day and covered any sprouts i saw with epoxy. I THINK i have finally beat it We were talking about the red turf algae, but dang i hope i can get all the bryopsis smothered before it spreads!!! Quote
fly guy Posted January 17, 2007 Posted January 17, 2007 oh......LOL : ) Bryopsis is the only thing i have seen survive the cooking process after doing 3 batches of about 400 lbs totals Quote
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