WAVES Posted April 26, 2006 Share Posted April 26, 2006 Well,, PFO has a new light that is being released at IMAC, its an LED fixture that can be run from 6.5k to 20k. Not only that but you can program the output to change throughout the day. want 20k in the am then to a crisp 10k at the days peak? Want to have clouds move across the tank as you view it? All this is available. LED bulbs are expected to last 5 years so no more replacing halides VHO's and T5s on a regular bases. Available from 12 inches to 6 feet. The output is being compared to a 250wHQI. Unit runs on 24v DC power, so no more big power hogs either. Price to be released in the next day or two at IMAC. Ill let you know when I have an idea of what they will run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R-3 Posted April 26, 2006 Share Posted April 26, 2006 Holy Snikes!!!! That sounds pretty sweet. I betcha is got a nice big price tag. LAter Ryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rude944 Posted April 26, 2006 Share Posted April 26, 2006 Wow, big wow. Lower heat, higher efficiency and programability. I expect it would be priced accordingly, however the materials should be cheaper, but you know, they gotta get back the engineering costs somewhere! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy Posted April 26, 2006 Share Posted April 26, 2006 I've been wondering when something like this would come along. There have been huge advances in LED technology in the past few years, it's nice to see them find their way down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impur Posted April 26, 2006 Share Posted April 26, 2006 Awesome, simply awesome. That sounds like one sweet light. Not that i'll be able to afford it for a few years but still. Sounds cool. Its about time someone used LEDs for their full potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAVES Posted April 26, 2006 Author Share Posted April 26, 2006 well if anyone has seen the LED moonlights from PFO, you should know what to expect for brightness, they are NUTTY bright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spayne Posted April 26, 2006 Share Posted April 26, 2006 That just sounds sweet! It would be interesting to see how the coral respond to the different spectrums, as well as intensity, of light. I'm hoping they have some reports on preliminary findings to whet our appetites until the hobbyists have the chance to get ahold of them. Course, I guess that depends on if a hobbyist would have to sell a kidney to buy one! Stacy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palani Posted April 26, 2006 Share Posted April 26, 2006 It's about time someone broke through with this technology. I was kinda expecting it, caues of the lighting costs made by halides. I'm sure the wattage draw is close to 1/16 of a MH (or something like that). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowman Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 supposedly they never burn out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spayne Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 supposedly they never burn out Are you serious? Well, I'm surprised they put together a lighting unit utilizing the technology then. They're going to be losing some on going profit with changing bulbs. Now I am a little frightened of how much they are going to cost! Stacy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ahbrit Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 probably $3000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drock59 Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 a little birdy told me closer to 1200 but still a sweet deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impur Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 I'm sure they will advise people to change the bulbs (and i'm sure those bulbs will be a special order bulb) every few years to help with profits. Anyone know if LEDs have a spectrum shift over time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAVES Posted April 27, 2006 Author Share Posted April 27, 2006 I doubt at this point anyone knows the price, Carla at PFO swore she didnt even know yet, only Pat. Maybe she is a good lier, but I dont think anyone knows at this point how much it will cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 LED do not shift spectrum over time. They are estimating a 5 year lifespan but you may be able to get up to 10 years out of a unit. These units will not actually hit the market until July. I am putting one on order as soon as they actually let me. They will be in a hood type unit that you can hang or support with legs. They are supposed to be similar in out put to 250w double ended bulbs. I told Carla not to break my bank but I need to have one. In 3 years these will probably pretty much eliminate metal halide lighting. You know the price is going to stay up there because they are cutting themselves out of selling bulbs and all the work that has gone on in development over the last 3 years. Just look at it over the long term. Lower electric consumption, no changing of bulbs and the ability to have amazing control over your lighting system. Well worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ahbrit Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 And dont forget the chiller cost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impur Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 Yah these will definately be worth it. Looking forward to seeing it in action when you get it Sean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAVES Posted April 27, 2006 Author Share Posted April 27, 2006 I hope they can work it out to be controlled by an aqua controller,,, that would be sweet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impur Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 Now that would be something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 They are supposed to have their own controller that you can hook up to your computer to program dawn to dusk, the color spectrum, and probably lots of other bells and whistles. I just wish they were going to be available before July. I can't wait to get my new toy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashardy Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 So where can I see them at? Web page would be nice. Thanks CLH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 I wonder if the hood will concentrate groups of the LED's somehow so that you can still get point source shimmer lines like with MH's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 Nobody is supposed to know about them yet as they are being unveiled at the show this weekend so I don't think you will find any info out there on them as of yet. Hopefully tomorrow will be the grand unveiling and then there will be e-mails going out to PFO customers with more details about them including pricing. LED's still provide point source illumination. I don't know how stacking LED's will effect the ripples in the surface put I would imagine you would still get the ripple effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFOLIGHT Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 Thanks for all your positive feed back on the hood almost no one has seen. I am here in Chicago at IMAC setting up the booth. So far everyone has been impressed. I have posted the flyer for IMAC on our website extremely quickly. It also has a link to preorder prices good through May 4, 2006. The question on shimmering effect: we are using 25 3 Watt LED's /foot. This is producing some shimmer effect. Not as good as Metal Halide but definately a lot better than fluorescent. As far as coral testing: The Par readings look pretty good in relation to a 250 watt metal halide. I have a hood over corals at the show and a PAR meter set up with it. It is currently reading twice the par as a XM250W 20K bulb. This is not a factual number based on scientific tests. It is just a quick reading. However, when people walk up to the hood and test the PAR they appear to be amazed. Dana Riddle is taking a hood back to Hawaii with him to do testing and so is Sanjay Joshi. I have one hood left at the show not called for and I wouldn't be supprised to see it go to another author before the weekend is over. The following is a link to our flyer: http://www.pfolighting.com/Aquarium-LED-Lighting.aspx The following is a link to our pricing and more detailed info: http://www.pfolighting.com/AquariumPgFolder/Images/Show%20Pricing.pdf I will be busy at the show and am sorry if I do not respond to questions. Thank you for all your support Patrick Ormiston PFO Lighting Inc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael7979 Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 Hey Patrick, Thanks for coming to our website and giving us a sneak peak at all this new technology. That things looks INCREDIBLE!!! There are so meaning options that it just un-real. Please keep us update if you can on all the new news about this product. THANKS AGAIN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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