CA2OR Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Re: Help PLease. I prefer SCRIPTS but you won't find it here....I promise. As for "salt" I only use salts that do not require dosing, so IMO there are superior salts. Sent from my Droid using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdwats Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 I did not expect that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdwats Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Yes, IO makes up at 350ppm Ca and recommends using tap water for an extra 100ppm Ca for reef tanks. They are insane to have that on the label and target reef tank owners as customers. I have never understood why they don't manufacture it at 450 ppm and suggest ro-di water. Always has said that on the label, which should be enough to say steer clear if you don't want to be supplementing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mytshall Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Fish Did all the fish make it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CA2OR Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 I too am curious.... Just so you know, with my statement about salts, that is just my opinion or from my experience....you are going to get different one's as previously mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianB Posted July 21, 2010 Author Share Posted July 21, 2010 At this point the clowns are fine so is the zebra. The firefish didn't make it. The green star looks to be in bad shape. The chocolate chip is doing ok, the urchin looks bad. The zoa's and mushrooms all look fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mytshall Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Fish I don't think the tank should cycle or spike that much since it was similar to just doing a water change. Fish wouldn't have really needed acclimation either. Generally when I do a water change I try to match the parameters as best as possible. I would check salinity, nitrates, and ammonia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianB Posted July 21, 2010 Author Share Posted July 21, 2010 Yeah the ammonia was at 1.5 mg/l last night salinity at 1.025, temp 79 and nitrite .3 mg/l. After dome of the comments and issues I think I am gonna change salt just want to know what a good quality salt is and who in portland stocks what. The instant ocean stuff didn't dissolve very well either. Even with a mag 7 and 2 power heads running. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReeFit Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Yeah the ammonia was at 1.5 mg/l last night salinity at 1.025' date=' temp 79 and nitrite .3 mg/l. After dome of the comments and issues I think I am gonna change salt just want to know what a good quality salt is and who in portland stocks what. The instant ocean stuff didn't dissolve very well either. Even with a mag 7 and 2 power heads running.[/quote'] instant ocean products aren't bad, just make sure your using the orange reef crystals instead of their plain saltwater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdwats Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Yeah the ammonia was at 1.5 mg/l last night salinity at 1.025' date=' temp 79 and nitrite .3 mg/l. After dome of the comments and issues I think I am gonna change salt just want to know what a good quality salt is and who in portland stocks what. The instant ocean stuff didn't dissolve very well either. Even with a mag 7 and 2 power heads running.[/quote'] If you are in Portland Oregon, you can try some of the MEI salt from Seahorse Aquarium Supply on Columbia Blvd. and I think 21st. st. Just east of MLK Blvd. They only sell it in 150 gallon makeups but it is really worth the switch. It isn't the fanciest saltwater place around, but they sell the best salt I've come across in mei. You could call woody and talk to him about it. You may pm me for the number if you'd like or just look him up. Sometimes you do need to let it sit a couple of days before it is ready though. Great stuff! Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 If you are in Portland Oregon' date=' you can try some of the MEI salt from Seahorse Aquarium Supply on Columbia Blvd. and I think 21st. st. Just east of MLK Blvd. They only sell it in 150 gallon makeups but it is really worth the switch. It isn't the fanciest saltwater place around, but they sell the best salt I've come across in [i']mei[/i]. You could call woody and talk to him about it. You may pm me for the number if you'd like or just look him up. Sometimes you do need to let it sit a couple of days before it is ready though. Great stuff! Greg Is that the Crystal Sea mix? I didn't recognize it when you said what it was however when you mentioned where it came from I knew right away. Nothing personal but it is the only salt I know of offhand that I will never use again and the only one I will advise others to avoid. I had two problems with it. First is that it required constant dosing to get the levels to stay where they need to be and second is that it is very inconsistent from box to box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdwats Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Is that the Crystal Sea mix? I didn't recognize it when you said what it was however when you mentioned where it came from I knew right away. Nothing personal but it is the only salt I know of offhand that I will never use again and the only one I will advise others to avoid. I had two problems with it. First is that it required constant dosing to get the levels to stay where they need to be and second is that it is very inconsistent from box to box. Wow. I had the opposite effect when switching. Go figure. At least you did not heed my ill advice, which is very easy to come by. It just worked for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReeFit Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 i'm going to try the IO reef crystals back to back with H2O ocean pro plus to see what the parameters are. if there is not a significant difference its going to be worth the switch over to save $30 a box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianB Posted July 21, 2010 Author Share Posted July 21, 2010 What about kent salts? Anyone use this I was thinking about ordering a 200 gallon bucket. The instant ocean just didn't dissolve and left stuff in the bottom. It was not the reef crystals it was just the normal IO salt. and the bag had been sitting for years although it was sealed up. Defiantly going to buy a differant brand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undrtkr_00 Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 I use Kent, and like it well. High calcium, decent alk, somewhat low mag. I generally dose with mag flake when I make up a batch. I used to use the Crystal Seas Marine Mix also (MEI, as you call it, from Seahorse) but switched after I got some really inconsistent batches and found myself dosing all three (mag, alk, calc) every time I mixed it up. I've been pretty happy with Kent. Lots of people also like the IO reef crystals. You definitely don't just want to use the regular IO - it's not designed for corals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianB Posted July 23, 2010 Author Share Posted July 23, 2010 Before work I was able to get some calibration solution, my meter was off by a full point. Tank ph is 7.9 currently with lights on. Temp 80. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReeFit Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 Before work I was able to get some calibration solution' date=' my meter was off by a full point. Tank ph is 7.9 currently with lights on. Temp 80.[/quote'] sounds like your in the right area, wouldn't hurt to throw in a little ph up. maybe check your alk and throw in a dkh buffer that will increase your ph too if both levels are low. I would still keep an eye on your ammonia levels. i still suspect your going through a small cycle. Its not a difficult thing to accidentally cause especially when you change things around, stir up sand and put a bunch of fresh water in that needs to be seeded by the current bacteria as well. To many things going on all at once. just leave it be and let it settle back in to itself. it will balance out. keep an eye on your parameters and try to keep them fairly consistent and use nitrate and ammonia removers to help reduce the effects on your inhabitants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdwats Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 I doubt your pH of 7.9 reading. Also, you might want to drip a little Kalkwasser in the evenings to better raise alkalinity and pH semi-quickly. The free hydroxides will also help precipitate phosphates, actually increasing your skimmers performance, along with other benefits. Just don't overdo it, and don't try to use it to "raise" your calcium levels, there are better ways for that. As far as Super dKH buffer, I have used it in the past and found it took an awful lot to do any permanent good. Anyway, that is just my 2 (maybe 3) cents worth... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CA2OR Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 Re: Help PLease. If you don't have one add a light to your sump running opposite of main light....ie all night....will help stablize PH Sent from my Droid using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianB Posted August 21, 2010 Author Share Posted August 21, 2010 Bringing the thread back from the dead. LOL. Everything has been figured out since then ph stays at 8.2 in the day and only drops slightly at night. no real sump as this is a 29 nano tank. (clap) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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