Ronjunior Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 Goal: to make a sump around 16" deep, around 17" tall and maybe 3' long. I have a few 55 gallon aquariums I want to cut down and make a sump that will fit under my cabinet. I was going to use 1 untouched, but wouldn't be able to manuever underneath, let alone squeeze a skimmer cup out. I don't have a problem cutting glass from 4' to 3' or so, I'm afraid of trying to cut the 3' piece from the 21" down to 17". In other words, basically shortening the height of the tank/sump. Anyone try to cut this thick of glass over the length of a 3' span....only taking off a few inches and have it turn out with a straight break? Other option is to trade someone with a sump for a tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Angel Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 Of course Im not good with glass, at least I've never cut glass. But it seems alot of work to remove the frame and silicone to then cut the glass. I personally would look around for a cheap used tank the size your looking for, I guess they probably dont come that size though. Im using a 20L for my sump, I just measured, its only 12" high, 12" deep and about 2 1/2 feet long. A little smaller than what your wanting. Oh well, good luck, sure would be the cheapest route if you already have the tank and know how to cut glass. Hopefully its a old one you have laying around, wouldnt want to risk a new one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JManrow Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 When cutting long, narrow sections of glass, use a 2X4 along the length of your cut(on side of cut to be removed that is extending off the edge your table) to apply even pressure for a clean break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronjunior Posted December 21, 2006 Author Share Posted December 21, 2006 If I would have known my cichlid tank is going away so soon, I wouldn't have cleaned and resealed the top seal that was completely loose; now it's completely silconed DOH! I'm considering cutting a 55g tank down without taking apart completly...may be a crazy idea though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impur Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 I cut about 12" out of the back of my 29gal using a dremel. Took about 30 min. I didn't have any problems, i think the glass was 1/4" thick. I think it would be simple to do it all the way around. Especially if you have a rotozip and tile cutting bit. My dremel is battery powered so i would have to recharge it every 30min or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAVES Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 You should be able to scratch it with the glass cutter, then tap the scratch with the ball end of your glass cutter, this should open up the crack, start near the edge and keep tapping it to work the crack along your scar line. Im sure its possible to do it without taking the tank apart. Many if not most 55s are tempered, be sure you try this outside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JManrow Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 Im sure its possible to do it without taking the tank apart. Joel... how sure are you about this? Have you ever seen it done or attempted it yourself?Am I the only one cringing here?(scary) (laugh) I'm not saying that it is impossible, just improbable. All tanks that I have modified were disassembled, the glass cut, then reassembled. I don't see how there would be any way to get a clean break with the tank still together. Perhaps if the top frame and sealant were removed along the side seams first. Best of luck Ron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mister crabs Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 if you get a STRAIGHT CUT and take the corner silicone off just down to the cut point....u should be able to do it with the score and tap method. try it on a ten gallon to be sure first...at least thats what i would do...haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronjunior Posted December 22, 2006 Author Share Posted December 22, 2006 Yeah, I'm still contemplating on the best way, maybe score on the inside, take off a few inches of silicone, lay flat/over hump and push down/tap from the inside of the tank...Using clams to hold a 2x4 in place for scoring and breaking. I suppose I could attempt with a 55g tank that's already broken and if it works, I'll at least have some baffle material. Only thing I won't be getting is a 16" wide tank if I don't recreate entirely..... don't know if the 4" will make or break a sump... One of those things you find out later when trying to put a large skimmer or something in the mix and it won't fit. I wonder how a diamond bladed wet saw would do, I know it cut my patio rocks like butter...may just shatter with vibrations though... I can't find articles of a glass tank being cut shorter by any means, I'm probably just nuckin futs for tryin . But what else is a guy to do when he doesn't have a real job.(nutty) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mister crabs Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 its people like you who are guinea pigs for the rest of us!! so ty in advance for whatever findings you get from ur lil experiment! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronjunior Posted December 22, 2006 Author Share Posted December 22, 2006 Well, I'm searching for a hard drive and an image just came into my head making me ensure I use goggles with a circular saw, but that took my imagination further with big shards of glass flying everywhere; don't think I'll touch it with the saw now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAVES Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 Hey John what do I get if I can do it I agree it wont be a clean enough cut to silicone another piece right on the end, it would have to be ground, or the peice would have to fit inside the bottom and sides. Im pretty confident I would be able to do it. Ive done some stained glass in the past so Ive done some glass cutting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JManrow Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 Hey John what do I get if I can do it I agree it wont be a clean enough cut to silicone another piece right on the end, it would have to be ground, or the peice would have to fit inside the bottom and sides. Im pretty confident I would be able to do it. Ive done some stained glass in the past so Ive done some glass cutting. How about hearty "well-done"? As long as it is for what Ron intends to do with it, a perfect edge wouldn't really be all that necessary. It's just the top few inches being removed... the top frame can always be siliconed back on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAVES Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 top frame shrame, it doesnt do a [language filter] thing but look pretty anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mister crabs Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 and keep u from cutting up your arms on the glass! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly guy Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 I wonder how a diamond bladed wet saw would do, I know it cut my patio rocks like butter...may just shatter with vibrations though... I can't find articles of a glass tank being cut shorter by any means, I'm probably just nuckin futs for tryin . But what else is a guy to do when he doesn't have a real job.(nutty) A diamond bladed wet saw works great for cutting glass. You will want to dremel the edges smooth when you get done, or like said above just silicone the rim back on........ Ive used my $77 wet saw home depot special to cut glass quite a few different times. I see no reason why you couldnt just slide the tank over one side after another. You will probably put some scratches in the glass from sliding it on the saw table and little shards of glass....but if its for a sump that shouldnt matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impur Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 Just use a piece of wood, put the tank on that, and slide the wood with the tank. No scratches! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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