izzypop Posted October 14, 2006 Share Posted October 14, 2006 The directions say you can't fully submerge it anymore on the new model they released. What the ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nu2reef-n Posted October 14, 2006 Share Posted October 14, 2006 I have one. The instructions said the same thing, but I have it fully submerged. so far, so good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy Posted October 14, 2006 Share Posted October 14, 2006 !! So, the instructions say to NOT fully submerge the heater and you did anyways? You think they're just kidding? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefin' Posted October 14, 2006 Share Posted October 14, 2006 it says they are submersible on this site........just like the ebo-jager http://www.aquariumpros.com/c-EBO.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy Posted October 14, 2006 Share Posted October 14, 2006 Hey, live as you will. I just know that if I bought an electrical appliance and the instructions said to *not* submerge it in salt water, I'd take that pretty seriously. Might want to double check things each time before you stick your hand in the tank. Seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reefboy Posted October 14, 2006 Share Posted October 14, 2006 i second that thers a reason for them taking away liabilty these companys do tests so in other words voltage has ben tested when submerged past that point so if u die because u submerged your wife cant sue but id be happy to take a policy out on ya lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefin' Posted October 14, 2006 Share Posted October 14, 2006 http://www.eheim.com/jager.htm fully submersible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy Posted October 14, 2006 Share Posted October 14, 2006 Gotch'a, Reefin' -- but Izzy said the included instructions said *not* to. Why do you think the manufacturer would have stated that, if not for safety reasons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefin' Posted October 14, 2006 Share Posted October 14, 2006 maybe cause when they were ebo jager, that model of heater has had alot of failures(which look identical to them in the photo), so maybe its one way out of replacing them.kind of wierd that the manufacturers site states one thing and the instructions another.....i dunno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefin' Posted October 14, 2006 Share Posted October 14, 2006 i just sent Eheim an email. we'll see what they have to say..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy Posted October 14, 2006 Share Posted October 14, 2006 Good idea, go to the source. Might also check if they have a forum at RC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reefboy Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 they put that on as disclaimer so if it happens to shock you you cant sue so its your gamble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
izzypop Posted October 15, 2006 Author Share Posted October 15, 2006 yea there new heater instructions say not to submerge it all the way. There is a line you shouldn't pass. My guess is it is a german thing where legally they aren't code for fully submerged. I really want to submerge this thing for my water makeup bin but now I'm trippin on it. I saw the web site thing but this is there new heater not the old one. The instructions are too detailed to be a translation thing. Eheim makes a great product but this blows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyles Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 Same as pevious model, they are just covering themselves for liability. If you want a nice subersible I would recomend the via aqua stealth (lifetime warranty) I have ebos and stealths, I like them both equally. I hate via aqua cheapies though. Back to the subject though, its just a liability thing, Im sure their lawyer called and said to cover your ARSE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCR Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 well dang, do ya think I should stop making toast when im in the tub???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronjunior Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 CCR, no need to stop unless you're drying your hair at the same time . The saltwater setup I bought had an EJ that was fully submersed and I put it back the way he had it assuming it was OK.....and he is an attorney. So, if something/someone frys, do I dare go after him, or have him represent me??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
izzypop Posted October 17, 2006 Author Share Posted October 17, 2006 got the answer from Eheim JAGER heaters are fully submersible according to European standards. However because Jager heaters are now manufactured in Germany a new UL certificate must be issued for the “New” company. This new certificate must be issued to comply with the North American standards, until then the heater MUST be labeled as not submersible in North America. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronjunior Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 So it's safe to say, we can all submerse our heaters by moving to Germany! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 Ahhhh, that makes sense. I deal with product certifications at work, and can see how this went for Eheim -- frustrating stuff for the company involved. Thanks for following up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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