markdadof2 Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 So everyone, what is the verdict. I see this Refugium mineral mud - is it really a good thing? Do you use it? My refugium is only about 9 gallons and rectangle shaped: 20 wide x 7.25 deep x 15 tall Would i need a whole gallon of this, or is that too much? Thanks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CA2OR Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 I don't know. What I do know is there is a store called The Mystic Reef that uses this stuff and swears by it. Their tanks are beautiful and corals grow quite fast there. Now that is also due to the amount of light and so on. If you are on RC you can find them there. They have a huge thread regarding this issue. I was looking for it to post here for you but can't seem to find it. It was about 2 months ago that I saw it. I brought it up in here but didn't get much in the way of a responce. I know it is far fetched but I hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Reef Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 I've heard the mud is good to, but have had no experience with it. We use fine grain sand, and have had great success with its denitrification benefits. In other words I'm sure either would be good. Ricky Soutas Jr. -Soutas Saltwater & Reef Inc.- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowman Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 I used a little mud, and lots of various size sand in mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TankIt Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 mineral mud I used this in my fuge I had setup on my old tank and was actually able to notice some results within a week or so. It seemed like my corals were opening up a little more and maybe grew a little faster. I plan to use again once I get my tank squared away. For a smaller fuge you could prbably get away with just using the booster even? I had a 10 gal fuge before and a 4" sandbed and used just the Miricle Mud booster. You could probably do this too? I would check around though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pledosophy Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Miracle Mud is the bomb. It's pretty cool. Ya, I know Leng Sy he helped me out when I was a newb and we have a mutal friend, he's a swell guy. I used it for many years, then I moved up here and there were no local suppliers for any Ecosystem products so I tried some other brands. All I got was hair algae. If your going to do it, I'd spend the cash and go with Miracle mud, if not, I just use sand and rubble rock now, it's cool. Took a bit longer to get the pod growth, and I don't test for trace elements so how would I know. I did like the product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CA2OR Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Miracle Mud is the bomb. It's pretty cool. Ya, I know Leng Sy he helped me out when I was a newb and we have a mutal friend, he's a swell guy. I used it for many years, then I moved up here and there were no local suppliers for any Ecosystem products so I tried some other brands. All I got was hair algae. If your going to do it, I'd spend the cash and go with Miracle mud, if not, I just use sand and rubble rock now, it's cool. Took a bit longer to get the pod growth, and I don't test for trace elements so how would I know. I did like the product. I would have to agree, though not by my own experience but that of friends of mine. I too, have a product that I see in a similar way. When I moved here I was unable to find tropic marin, so I tried to go back to what I used to do and got nothing but problems, made some adjustments, found TM, no more problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markdadof2 Posted March 12, 2009 Author Share Posted March 12, 2009 Miracle mud by EcoSystems, or Mineral mud by carib sea? Are they the same or is one better than the other? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pledosophy Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 According to Leng, nothing is like his. He has a special place he harvests from in the ocean and then a large grow out facility where he cultures the stuff. His facility is pretty high tech to my lame eyes. Some people say it's a farce, I don't think they would put all the money into that setup if it was just a farce. I have no experience with the carib sea product, for all I know they are similar. I have heard Leng talk about his Miracle Mud product with great passion. He sold me on it, when he wasn't trying to. He's a smart dude, kinda crazy insane smart, but I believe him FWTW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 I've heard enough negative reports to put this stuff into my "snake oil" category (along with the Eco-Aqualizer, Purple-Up, plenums and the Sham-WOW! (laugh)), but I'm naturally suspicious and probably miss out on a lot of good things as a result Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markdadof2 Posted March 12, 2009 Author Share Posted March 12, 2009 Andy - costco sells the Sham-Wow towels now...better go stock up! ha ha ha. Now 'vince' is pushing the 'Slap chop' product. What a joke! Maybe i will just go with some good live sand in my refugium and call it good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 That slap-chop thing breaks me up. I should market *my* super-chopper via infomercial, it'd make a million. I call it "the knife" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kriswaters Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 I've heard enough negative reports to put this stuff into my "snake oil" category (along with the Eco-Aqualizer' date=' Purple-Up, plenums and the Sham-WOW! (laugh)), but I'm naturally suspicious and probably miss out on a lot of good things as a result [/quote'] Hey now....I love my sham-wow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 It's ok Kris, snake oil needs love too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckie Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 Kris, I have sham-wow thought it would be great for all the water around the tank. Thought it would be good dog towel to. I got water lines and hair mated into them. Mark may have great tanks with sand is it "really" that great of stuff. I'm with Andy on this one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markdadof2 Posted March 13, 2009 Author Share Posted March 13, 2009 I think I will re-market the slap chop as the "quick fragger" Oh, and watch the video -and don't forget, 'you will love his nuts'. Andy, let's get one and do some fragging! https://www.slapchop.com/ver3/index.asp and for those of you who just can't get enough: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 LOL, we can Slap-Frag some of Matt's chalices! We'd definitely have to video that one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrgreenthumb Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 (cussing) LOL' date=' we can Slap-Frag some of Matt's chalices! We'd definitely have to video that one [/quote'] lol never!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coralreefer Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 I started doing water changes using Sham-Wow, you know, to get rid of the water that needed to be taken out of the tank. The Sham-Wow worked wonderfully. Not only could I remove tank water, but if I got any on the floor, I used it to suck it up. Left my floor silky smooth. My wife loves me even more...how much more?...Sham-Wow MORE!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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