Michael7979 Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 The first guy in this thread is a importer/exporter, hope he means for fish. But if this is true..........THIS SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=830986 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impur Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 Thats messed up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spayne Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 You have got to be kidding! But really, it only takes a few bad apples to mess it up for the rest of us. For instance, you used to be able to buy red-eared slider turtles in this state... in fact I bought one years ago when it was legal. But then you have the irresponisble people who decided that it was messy and dirty or it got too big... so let's just release it into the river back into the wild. Who cares if it isn't native to this area? That's how I got my second slider. It was crossing Delta Highway in Eugene. Lucky for the turtle I saw it and grabbed it before a car hit it. It either escaped or was discarded by someone. And on the off-chance that it was an escapee, I couldn't exactly advertise that I found it or Fish and Wildlife would come and simply confiscate it. :( I know, I'm a law-breaker. But who knows what they would do to the poor turtle. Probably destroy it. That is really going to suck if we are unable to get snails. I'm afraid this is just going to be an ongoing trend though. What with the status of the reefs and the problems they've been having, I won't be surprised when they halt all harvesting of the wild colonies. We would still have aquaculturing though... I hope. Stacy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impur Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 Did you know they found an aligator in the Delta ponds a few years ago? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 I don't think it will be that bad. Most of these laws only really effect the importers. It will just be a couple of more hoops to jump through for them. It doesn't sound like it will be enforced within the US just on imports so we would still have astraeas, nassarius, cerith snails. I hope they don't get to crazy might take a couple of dollars out of my side business. On a side note there is actually an FDA regulation stating that you can't sell turtles under 4" because of the risk of salmonella poisoning because the turtles were kept in dirty tanks and then little kids get a hold of them and don't wash their hands afterwards and that whole nine yards. Then of course there are probably a million Oregon regulations regarding the turtles also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spayne Posted April 26, 2006 Share Posted April 26, 2006 An alligator in Delta ponds! Holy shnikeys! But that's what happens... oh, look at the cute little gator. If we keep him in a ten gallon and starve him he won't get bigger! DOH! I think that under 4" was in affect when I got my slider. Something about kids sticking them in their mouths was what I was told. So basically, the turtles have to be larger than child mouth size in order to sell. hungry laugh I'm glad that the snail issue shouldn't affect us. Even though I'm not a fan of seeing all the snails stuck on the front of the glass, they do help out with tank maintenance. Stacy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted April 26, 2006 Share Posted April 26, 2006 I definately have not heard of anything through my suppliers yet about these regulations. I have 1000 snails coming tomorrow so I know it is not in effect yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westwood Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 spayn Some laws are ment to be broken ... the Human law over the government should prevail .. Id find calfs Deer and elk after there moms got hit of illeagly hunted and raise them on the ranch .. i got caught and the police officer asked are you gonna eat it .. just then i threw up looking at a 5 day old baby deer i named Boomer..there small.. how could you eat something like that .. once i threw up he said ya know tammy Some laws are not right and made to be broken im glad your the one breakng this one and let me go..just like your glidder .. ive found several turtles crossing the road between elkton and Drain..kept one he got huge as omgosh and she desided to bite my nephew smiles Tammy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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