R-3 Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Yah i'm thinking 1/2" seam' date=' maybe a little more. I'll play with it as I start to tape off the sides. My thinking is larger definitely won't hurt, but i don't want it to be an eyesore either.[/quote'] Sweet! You gonna use black or clear??? My vote is black (whistle) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impur Posted November 22, 2010 Author Share Posted November 22, 2010 Clear. I was going to use black from the beginning, but switched (laugh) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reef165 Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 I know that patiance and planning is what you need to succed in the hobie but 7 monthes and still haven't glued the tank together, thats taken it to the next level!! Were looken to see some progress here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impur Posted November 23, 2010 Author Share Posted November 23, 2010 Couple more shots of the practice cube with the tape removed. I'm going to get one of those tools that smooths the silicon seam, my finger didn't really give me a uniform seam. I'm going to give this until Sunday and then water test it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jadams7 Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 Sweet Beer collection in the back!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impur Posted November 23, 2010 Author Share Posted November 23, 2010 Thats my pipeline from brewing!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgf86123 Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 Miles, what's the idea behind having a bottom Euro-brace? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Dave Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 Mmmmmm.... Ninkasi....(drooler) Huh, what... oh ya - if I can throw my opinion out there as a glass guy - if you use black it will show less imperfections, ie bubbles and uneven caulk joints. Also, try pressing a little harder with your finger as your smoothing the joint. Another trick is to lick your finger or spray a little glass cleaner on your finger first and then tool it. Hope that helps! -Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R-3 Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 Mmmmmm.... Ninkasi....(drooler) Huh, what... oh ya - if I can throw my opinion out there as a glass guy - if you use black it will show less imperfections, ie bubbles and uneven caulk joints. Also, try pressing a little harder with your finger as your smoothing the joint. Another trick is to lick your finger or spray a little glass cleaner on your finger first and then tool it. Hope that helps! -Dave Have you made some tanks Dave??? Spill it (naughty) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impur Posted November 24, 2010 Author Share Posted November 24, 2010 Miles' date=' what's the idea behind having a bottom Euro-brace?[/quote'] Gives the bottom seam more surface area. Just a little piece of mind since there is no top eurobrace. Having that 1" seam on the bottom will really help reinforce it. Mmmmmm.... Ninkasi....(drooler) Huh, what... oh ya - if I can throw my opinion out there as a glass guy - if you use black it will show less imperfections, ie bubbles and uneven caulk joints. Also, try pressing a little harder with your finger as your smoothing the joint. Another trick is to lick your finger or spray a little glass cleaner on your finger first and then tool it. Hope that helps! -Dave Too late for the black, i already forked out $60 for the clear. I was going to go black originally, but decided i don't want that framed in look it would give each pane. Thanks for the tips on the silicon! So you suggest going over the joint with my finger then using the tool to make it look uniform? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Dave Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 Me personally, I wouldn't use a tool - just my finger, but I'm a "professional"! Those little tools they sell to help make nice caulk corners for like baths and sinks are just a pain in the butt to me. As long as you have caulk between the glass edges, that inside seam doesn't provide a huge amount of strength. If you press harder (and even pressure too) your caulk joint should turn out a little nicer and more consistant. Press hard enough to feel the edge of the tape against/under your finger. Not sure what caulking you got, but be sure to check the time it takes to "FULLY CURE". Most of the stuff we use at work is water proof after 24 hours or less, BUT actually takes 14 days to fully cure - which can be a huge difference when you need it to hold a tank full of water together!! I've never made a tank myself, but I've been thinking about trying one. I haven't figured out the top bracing yet - I thought about putting a 1-2 inch solid rim of plexi around the top, since that would be easier to polish the inside edge - and add strength to the top. HTH!! -Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impur Posted November 24, 2010 Author Share Posted November 24, 2010 Thanks Dave! I was mostly going to use the tool for looks, i want that inside seam to be flawless. Maybe i'll do a couple more practice corners before i jump in on the main tank. I know that inside seam doesn't provide much strength, but its gotta look good! (laugh) I'm using RTV108 and I have read about the full cure time, which is 7 days at 77 degrees. Well the tank will be built in my garage so its significantly colder. At any rate, i planned to let it site for 3 weeks before i touch it. Then it'll be filled and left on my back patio full for 1 month to ensure structural integrity. I know it could still fail down the road, but a month without leaks works for me. I would not recommend using acrylic/plexi as your eurobrace. There is no way to ensure the bond between the glass and acrylic. You'd need to either use a small strip of glass, or bump up the glass size and eliminate the top brace all together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impur Posted November 29, 2010 Author Share Posted November 29, 2010 No leaks!!! The seams are nice too, only 1 seam has a couple bubbles the others are perfect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LC Scott Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 Whoops, could one of the Mods delete that, I was showing someone how to do something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longiotti Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 where are some more updates on this? getting ready to build a 41 gallon tank and I need you to build yours first! it is going to be 16x20x30 tall. if that goes smoothly I will be building a 28x50x30 tall. for the 41 gallon it is going to be rimless with 3/8 glass I was planning on the larger one going rimless with 1/2 but thinking it might have to be 5/8 thick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impur Posted December 27, 2010 Author Share Posted December 27, 2010 Only thing left is to add the sides. I haven't have ANY time to do it though. I am hoping to get to it in January. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longiotti Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 do you have a link to the black silicone that you were going to use? how much space do you leave at the joints? I have been told a tooth pick. is that right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dee77 Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 looking good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impur Posted December 27, 2010 Author Share Posted December 27, 2010 I don't have a link sorry. Its Momentive RTV108 if that helps, the clear is RTV103. I bought it at Granger here in Eugene. I think the seam between the panels should be no more than 1-2mm, or roughly 1/16-1/8". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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