kriz2fer Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 read this http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2014/11/10/aca-architect-the-stupidity-of-the-american-voter-led-us-to-hide-obamacares-tax-hikes-and-subsidies-from-the-public/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 nevermind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kriz2fer Posted November 12, 2014 Author Share Posted November 12, 2014 read the article matt. they purposely lied about it. I don't support Romney btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kriz2fer Posted November 12, 2014 Author Share Posted November 12, 2014 read this also. http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/sylvia-mathews-burwell-vs-the-obamacare-death-panel/2014/11/10/d9403c7c-6933-11e4-a31c-77759fc1eacc_story.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 When I see the good it has done for numerous people I know and my children, I could care less how it came about. You can also talk about it all you want, it's law and it will stay that way. People had these same discussions and bitched about social security, still here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kriz2fer Posted November 12, 2014 Author Share Posted November 12, 2014 deception was used to pass a bill people had not right to vote on is not a transparent government. article 4 of the Constitution states the us government can't force people to buy anything. the law will have an appeal next year with a new set of standards and mindset. we will see what happens next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kriz2fer Posted November 12, 2014 Author Share Posted November 12, 2014 When I see the good it has done for numerous people I know and my children' date=' I could care less how it came about. You can also talk about it all you want, it's law and it will stay that way. People had these same discussions and *****ed about social security, still here.[/quote'] Matt nothings free. remember that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 I pay quite a lot, just not as much as I would have. Thank you Obama! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kriz2fer Posted November 12, 2014 Author Share Posted November 12, 2014 I pay quite a lot' date=' just not as much as I would have. Thank you Obama![/quote'] Matt I think you should hold that thanks until you see your premiums for 2015. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higher Thinking Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Not to be the enforcer, but this thread will get shut down quickly if people don't have a meaningful discussion. Not a threat, just a reminder. Thanks all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kriz2fer Posted November 12, 2014 Author Share Posted November 12, 2014 me and Matt have been discussing issues related to this for a few years now. never have they got shut down. I like Matt and I think he's a cool guy. no hard feelings between us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higher Thinking Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 me and Matt have been discussing issues related to this for a few years now. never have they got shut down. I like Matt and I think he's a cool guy. no hard feelings between us. That's definitely really awesome. I was just being proactive in hopes of preventing something negative from starting. Respect is all I ask. Thanks man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kriz2fer Posted November 17, 2014 Author Share Posted November 17, 2014 some more good truth popping it head on obama care. http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/11/18/us/politics/health-law-turns-obama-and-insurers-into-allies.html?_r=0&referrer= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandinga Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 What do clownfish and Obama have in common(other than both being clowns)? They both rely on symbiotic relationships. from that NY Times article. "Insurers and the government have developed a symbiotic relationship, nurtured by tens of billions of dollars that flow from the federal Treasury to insurers each year" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kriz2fer Posted December 5, 2014 Author Share Posted December 5, 2014 I pay quite a lot' date=' just not as much as I would have. Thank you Obama![/quote'] http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/dec/4/obamacare-sticker-shock-fears-government-pleads-wi/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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