jackaninny Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 Vortech has introduced a new MP10 and MP40 model called the Ecosmart (ES). Lots of pretty cool features and it gives an upgrade path to give the MP10/MP10ES model a wireless feature. I have an MP10 in transit to me so I was a little bummed about old/new model but Vortech has a very reasonable upgrade path. For the MP10 to the MP10 ES it's $55 and for a MP10 to a MP10W ES is $85. The list price of the MP10 ES will be $220 and the MP10W ES will be $265. I might be a few bucks off but those prices are pretty close. Ecosmart I forgot to add they have similar models in the MP40 line. No changes to the MP20 line and with all the reviews of the MP10 I wonder if this means the MP20 is facing the end of the line. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciao Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 Can you post a link detailing the feature upgrades to each model? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 http://reefbuilders.com/2010/03/12/ecosmart-driver-vortechs-ecotech-marine/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackaninny Posted March 12, 2010 Author Share Posted March 12, 2010 Ecosmart Models 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USCG CWO Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 SWEET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I just ordered everything I needed to upgrade my MP20 to the new MP40ES. Thanks for posting this as I was about to order the now older MP40W upgrade and the ES model is cheaper. Shane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 The MP20 wasn't enough on your 90? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USCG CWO Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 Nope I am running a Korillia 2 and 3 with it. Wimpy, Wimpy, Wimpy IMHO. I have a MP10 on my 40 gallon that puts out more flow than the MP20. At least it seems like it does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 The MP10 and MP20 seem really close in flow... the 10 tops out at 1500gph, the 20 at 2000gph. Not sure the 20 is worth the extra money over the 10. Thanks for the info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackaninny Posted March 13, 2010 Author Share Posted March 13, 2010 Advanced Aquarist tested the MP10 and found it actually pushed about 20% more than advertised - Link - so that brings it up to 1800gph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgf86123 Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 Nope I am running a Korillia 2 and 3 with it. Wimpy' date=' Wimpy, Wimpy IMHO. I have a MP10 on my 40 gallon that puts out more flow than the MP20. At least it seems like it does.[/quote'] Shane, what do you keep your MP10 set on in your 40? I've got mine currently running on my 20 long until the 40 is finished and am curious about different settings. The only complaint so far is the noise, when it is jacked up to full power, it makes a LOT of noise, and I was wondering what might be causing that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 The instructions I read online at the Ecotech site said that they get noisy if the wet and dry side aren't aligned properly. Maybe the problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danik Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 The retail price for the mp40w es is $445. They keep on going up and up in price. The mp40w wireless driver is allready above everything I need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgf86123 Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 The instructions I read online at the Ecotech site said that they get noisy if the wet and dry side aren't aligned properly. Maybe the problem? Andy, I get no noise at all when its turned down, but as soon as I turn it up, it gets real noisy, like, I can hear it 15' away laying on the couch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackaninny Posted March 13, 2010 Author Share Posted March 13, 2010 Andy' date=' I get no noise at all when its turned down, but as soon as I turn it up, it gets real noisy, like, I can hear it 15' away laying on the couch.[/quote'] I'm getting my MP10 on Tuesday so I speak from experience at that time but in deciding between the MP10 and MP20 one thing I searched for on the forums was the noise difference between the models. I found many threads out there about noisy MP10 and it was usually a defective motor and the issue was resolved by calling support and having them troubleshoot - it usually ended with support sending out a new motor. Might be worth a call. I will report back when I get mine up and running. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgf86123 Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 Thanks Jack, I'll wait til you get yours and then go from there. I've actually set it so that its not lined up perfectly, and the noise made is totally different. It's lined up perfectly, and is completely noiseless as long as it's turned down to about 50% power or so, as soon as I go higher than that, it starts whining. Very Very annoying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USCG CWO Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 Mick I run mine on the random lagoon and I have a very slight whine at full speed. It isn't annoying though. I would also suggest calling Ecotech for support. Shane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgf86123 Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 after lookin things over, looks like im gonna be breakin down an forkin over the dough for the upgrade kit, just bought it an now need to upgrade it LOL Shane, thats what I plan on doin tomorrow, hopefully their customer service is open then lOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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