downhill_biker Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 I had some corals go into major RTN this morning and didn't know what the problem was. I fragged the good portion of the corals and they stopped RTN. Shawn (coralreefaquarist) came over tonight and mentioned that one of the other members has some acro eating nudibranch's. One of the people he got corals from was me, and I haven't seen anything. But Shawn got home tonight and took pics of his new coral and he thinks there are parasites on them. He will post pics soon. Please help ID this, and fix this if there is a problem. This may get really, really ugly as I have sold a bunch of corals lately...of course I would've aquired them fairly recently, so that may leave a lot of the Portland group out of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 Big alk swing? Check all your levels, even the ones you "know" are right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coralreefaquarist Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 ****. 120 percent thats them.i was watching them crawl(enforcer) not nudis flatworms! **** the piece was only in my tank for like 3 hours but it was prob enough time for them to spread.i was told there is a dip that will kill them right off the piece then you have to quarantine all of the acros for a long long long time, because the flatworms come off the acro at night lay there eggs in the rock and sand and come out and eat in the day. this is them for sure look at all the light white. its bite marks. crapolla. i was told montis are ok aswell as milis. we will see.(sad)(sad)(sad)(sad)(sad)(sad)(sad)the good news they can be beat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coralreefaquarist Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 suuuuuuucccccccccckkkkkkkk(scary)i just got a few nice sps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downhill_biker Posted March 23, 2009 Author Share Posted March 23, 2009 i am not an expert but i would say those look like redbugs. i am researching now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishmanmike01 Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 Call me stupid, what is RTN? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downhill_biker Posted March 23, 2009 Author Share Posted March 23, 2009 Yeah, they are redbugs: http://www.melevsreef.com/redbugs.html This sucks. I am investigating the infestation now. Shawn, check all your corals, check the red planet and the tricolor table acro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coralreefaquarist Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 yeah ive been lookin for 15 mins all others seem fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downhill_biker Posted March 23, 2009 Author Share Posted March 23, 2009 Call me stupid' date=' what is RTN?[/quote'] Rapid Tissue Necrosis: http://www.reefhq.com.au/home/behind_the_scenes/coral_disease Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coralreefaquarist Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 redbugs flatworms suck. we must use interceptor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coralreefaquarist Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 we need to figure out where you got them. if it dosent get sorted soon all sps keepers on pnwmas could have this prob in no time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 Of the ones that I picked up a few weeks ago I don't see anything haven't lost any thing and don't see bites on anything... With me having lots of frags it easy for me to see them and so far so good I don't know if this helps with the time line... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downhill_biker Posted March 23, 2009 Author Share Posted March 23, 2009 redbugs flatworms suck. we must use interceptor? Looks like it. Melev recommends more people do it, even without redbugs, because the treatment is easy and very effective. I guess I need to send out a bunch of pm's and let people know to check their corals. I have no idea when i got them, so check your corals. Melev said they can exist in a reef tank forever without causing problems, he sees them every once in a while, and they usually aren't harmful. So, you can probably treat the one coral, but I need to treat the entire tank, once a week for 3 weeks. Now...Is my 6 line eating these? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downhill_biker Posted March 23, 2009 Author Share Posted March 23, 2009 Shawn did you check your red planet and your tricolor table? Those corals are the closest to the one that has them on it. I have a couple other corals with them, but nothing major. They are hit and miss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downhill_biker Posted March 23, 2009 Author Share Posted March 23, 2009 during that trip where i traded corals, i bought frags from seahorse, upscales, and got corals from mrgreenthumb. since then i got corals from nyles and josh, but those were this weekend, and wouldn't play a factor in this, except that they may have got them from me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R-3 Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 Yeah those are redbugs guys not flatworms. There are much easier to get rid of. Very easy compared to others. You have a expert in Miles down there in Eugene. He has fought off every possible infestation you can get in the reef world I would get some TMPCC and talk to Miles. http://www.marinedepot.com/ps_viewitem.aspx?idproduct=TP2191&child=TP2191&utm_source=mdcsegooglebase&utm_medium=cse&utm_term=TP2191&utm_content=TropicMarinProCoralCure200ml&utm_campaign=mdcse&site=google_base Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downhill_biker Posted March 23, 2009 Author Share Posted March 23, 2009 I really dont know if that stuff is better than interceptor. interceptor seems to be what is recommended by everyone when it comes to redbugs. melev says that he removed shrimp to keep from harming them, so would crabs need to be removed too? starfish? snails? or just shrimp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonH Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 TMPCC will work as a dip, but Interseptor will treat the whole tank. As Curtis mentioned, once a week for three weeks. It will kill all crabs and shrimp (including most of your pod populations) so if you can get those out of your tank for the duration, you should. Red Bugs suck, but they are probably the easiest of the dreaded three (along with AEFW and Monti eating nudis) to get rid of. I don't know about starfish, but snails aren't harmed by interceptor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonH Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 P.S. that's the best picture of red bugs and the damage they do that I've ever seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyles Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 TMPCC those bad boys, I had them 18 months ago, interceptor helped, but TMPCC is what finally killed them off. Interceptor did most the work, then when I seen some on a coral I would just dip that particular coral, it was not fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impur Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 Yep those be redbugs. My personal opinion would be to remove all acros to QT and do weekly TMPCC dips. 3 should do it, then leave the tank free of acros for 8 weeks. I just found out i have AEFW, again! Luckily i haven't sold anything to anyone for awhile. But i don't know where i got them. I QT everthing except for corals i get from a few select people. Guess thats gonna have to change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyles Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 You are a pro bug collector. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impur Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 Yep. I enjoy killing these guys. My wrasse sure loves em too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael7979 Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 Has anyone had any luck taking a turkey-baster and blowing them off corals so their fish can eat them? Just to reduce numbers. I know it is not a cure. More curious then anything. But the fish sure would love them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downhill_biker Posted March 24, 2009 Author Share Posted March 24, 2009 wouldn't "trying to save my pod population" kindof defeat the purpose? if i get rock out of the tank, then it may have eggs right? i am just worried about my mandarin dragonet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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