jason7504 Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 i just got it yesterday but its not looking good today..and there's white slime coming off it(so it was stressed)..what do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowman Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 Is it sloughing off any colored parts, ie tentacles? If not, I think it will be okay. Just don't disturb it any more than need be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason7504 Posted February 28, 2009 Author Share Posted February 28, 2009 i dont think so..i dont see any tentacles coming off or anything..but it doesn't look good...do you think there's too much flow or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsoz Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 The tentacles should move a little in the current, but not wave around like mad. It is acclimating to your tank. Just let it be. White stuff is probably the slime coat. Is it sticking up or resting on the sand/rocks? It should be sticking up so that no flesh is touching anything else. dsoz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCR Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 RUN SOME CARBON Keep the rest of your stock happy. check kalk level Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason7504 Posted February 28, 2009 Author Share Posted February 28, 2009 well i see some skeleton now..the flesh is shrinking :( well the stalk is resting on the rocks but the fleshy heads aren't touching the rocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CA2OR Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 Can you PM me where you got it? Just out of curiousity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael7979 Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 Put it a low flow area and a dim lite part of the tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsoz Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 I have seen the skeleton stick through the flesh before. It is usually from the trauma of being in the bag. It can recover if you give it good conditions. Like Michael said, low flow, but it does need some water movement. As long as the flesh does not start turning into brown jelly. If it starts to do that, then that head is probably not going to make it. You would want to break off the brown head and remove it from your tank. I did have one head of FS start to have brown jelly. It dissolved about 85% of the tissue then stopped. The head has recovered and started growing again (only from 1/4 of the original skeleton). It even has started to form a second head off the side. This is not the normal outcome from brown jelly though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckie Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 I to am having hammer problems. I got a new frag last weekend and aclimated to the tank. Opened up looked great for 3 days. It has sucked in and stayed that way for the last 3 days. I don't see any kind of slime or sluffing. I have been search older threads some say med light & flow, others say lower light. I use t5's. I have direct feed with Phyto feast, nothing chaging. How long can it stay sucked in before it bites the big one? Amn. 0, Nitrate 0-.5, Nitrite 0, PH 8.2,Cal 425. Any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JManrow Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 Jason - no doubt it was a major change from the conditions of where it was kept last. What are your current water parameters, especially pH, KH, and Ca ? Sudden extreme shifts in any of these can stress corals in this way. You might even get a water sample to test from the last tank that it came from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael7979 Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 Beckie - is there anything that would be picky at the hammer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsoz Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 Beckie- you saw the hammer and frogspawn in my tank. They are under 6 T5 bulbs and doing fine from the bottom to the top of the tank. My only rule is low to medium water flow. If the tentacles wave around too much then they tend to rip off and float away. It can't be good to have that happen too often. I have seen FS stay contracted that way for almost a week before opening up and looking good. When the tentacles do open up, don't try to feed small foods. I feed my frogspawn and hammers large chunks of freeze dried plankton. Look at the mouth. When it opens up it is at least 1/8 to 1/4 inch in diameter. A piece of food as big as one of these letters should fit in that mouth just fine. I turn off all the pumps, and place the plankton near the mouth. If the coral is hungry it will grab the food and shove it in the mouth. If it is not hungry, the food will just float away. The whole process takes about 10-20 minutes. Then I turn the pumps back on. Jason and Beckie- I hope your corals both get better. dsoz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CA2OR Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 hey thanks Dennis, now I know how and when to feed my hammer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jason7504 Posted March 1, 2009 Author Share Posted March 1, 2009 Jason - no doubt it was a major change from the conditions of where it was kept last. What are your current water parameters, especially pH, KH, and Ca ? Sudden extreme shifts in any of these can stress corals in this way. You might even get a water sample to test from the last tank that it came from. my pH is 8.2, alk is 2.5( yeah i know its low.im trying to raise it though) and im not sure what my ca is because i dont have a test kit yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason7504 Posted March 1, 2009 Author Share Posted March 1, 2009 I have seen the skeleton stick through the flesh before. It is usually from the trauma of being in the bag. It can recover if you give it good conditions. Like Michael said, low flow, but it does need some water movement. As long as the flesh does not start turning into brown jelly. If it starts to do that, then that head is probably not going to make it. You would want to break off the brown head and remove it from your tank. I did have one head of FS start to have brown jelly. It dissolved about 85% of the tissue then stopped. The head has recovered and started growing again (only from 1/4 of the original skeleton). It even has started to form a second head off the side. This is not the normal outcome from brown jelly though. ok well i hope that it does recover and doesn't get brown jelly. i will check it tomarrow and hope for somewhat of a recovery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishiefish Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 whoops yep ypu should probably get a supplement yo boost that alk up fast(no faster than the directions though) I had alk problems a while ago an had simular p-roblems.do you do frequent water changes?make it routine if its not already....I find that my water seems to be low on alk all the time (especially if my cal. is on the higher end)so I just routily add the supplement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckie Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 Thanks Dennis, I forgot about how great yours looked. I have food on had and will try as soon as I seen green. I just hope I do. Beckie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckie Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 Michael I do have hermit crabs. I haven't seen them by it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JManrow Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 my pH is 8.2' date=' alk is 2.5( yeah i know its low.im trying to raise it though) and im not sure what my ca is because i dont have a test kit yet[/quote'] Just making a note for newbies. When you say alk is 2.5, the reading is in meq/l, and not dKH (also known as KH) or ppm (aka mg/l) Its a little low, but acceptable. 2.5 to 3.5 meq/l (7 to 10 dKH) Bringing it up gradually would be a good thing to do. Get a Ca test kit, or at least for now, take a water sample to your LFS for testing. From "The Marine Aquarium Reference: Systems and Invertebrates" © by Martin A. Moe, Jr. 1989, page 36: Part I. The Marine Environment Chapter 1. The Chemical Environment Table 2. Hardness Equivalents Unit Equivalents in ppm CaCO3 1 meq/l 50.0 ppm CaCO3 1.0 1 grain CaCO2 per US Gallon 17.1 =B0Clark, English, 1 grain CaCO3 per Imperial Gallon 14.3 10 ppm (France), 10 ppm CaCO3 10.0 dKH, =B0KH, KH or dH, German, 10 ppm CaO 17.9 To convert meq/l to ppm CaCO3 multiply by 50 To convert meq/l to dKH multiply by 2.8 To convert dKH to meq/l divide by 2.8 To convert dKH to ppm multiply by 17.9 to =B0Clark multiply by 1.25 To convert =B0Clark to ppm multiply by 14.3 to dKH multiply by 0.8 To convert ppm to =B0Clark multiply by 0.07 to dKH multiply by 0.05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsoz Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 Thanks John. Even I didn't catch that number for alk. I thought 2.5!!! Get that number up. Your reminder is not just good for the newbies out there. dsoz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JManrow Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 If the 2.5 is his alkalinity in dKH, then he is really in trouble!!!(scary)(laugh) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael7979 Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 Michael I do have hermit crabs. I haven't seen them by it though. If it isn't them there maybe something bothering it. Clowns trying to host it? I'd just keep an eye on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason7504 Posted March 1, 2009 Author Share Posted March 1, 2009 whoops yep ypu should probably get a supplement yo boost that alk up fast(no faster than the directions though) I had alk problems a while ago an had simular p-roblems.do you do frequent water changes?make it routine if its not already....I find that my water seems to be low on alk all the time (especially if my cal. is on the higher end)so I just routily add the supplement. i have an alk supp..well the salt i was using had low alk but now i switched salts to one that has a high ca,alk and mag..yeah i do weekly water changes of around 10%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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