CA2OR Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Ok well here is the start of my 30 gallon tank with custom stand and possible 3 tier filtration. I just purchased a JBJ 150w MH for the lighting. The tank is acrylic with dimensions of 20x24x17.5. By dimensions it is a 36g tank with 30 for display and 6 for refugium built on back. from rear from left from right Tentative plans for stand provided by WANAREEF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CA2OR Posted December 31, 2008 Author Share Posted December 31, 2008 Any input will be appreciated. I still do not have a skimmer or anything other than what you see here and the light. Does anyone think that the JBJ 150w MH will not be enough light? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CA2OR Posted December 31, 2008 Author Share Posted December 31, 2008 Tank inhabitants upon completion are as follows 2xTrue Perc clownfish 1xManderin Dragonette Goby 1xFire fish 1xSerpant Starfish 1xEmerald Green Starfish 1xSea Hare 1xCleanerShrimp 1xGreen Bubble Tip anemone 1xDuncan with 7 heads 1xHammer Coral with 4 heads 3xPulsing Xenia (pink) 1xBurgandy Xenia approximately 20 stocks 1xSmall Birdsnest Frag Purple mushrooms Lemonade Zoa's Zombie eye Zoa's Watermellon Zoa's Fish eye Zoa's Eagle eye Zoa's couple other zoa's snails and hermit crabs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadReefer Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 I would leave out the manderin, green starfish, and sea hare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CA2OR Posted December 31, 2008 Author Share Posted December 31, 2008 Why? Not argueing just curious if there are reasons I should be aware of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadReefer Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 It is a small tank for a mandarin, it's not likely to get the food it needs. Sea hares can be fragile and not beneficial. I don't see the point of the green starfish, actually I don't know exactly what starfish you are talking about, but I would still leave it out. Just my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CA2OR Posted December 31, 2008 Author Share Posted December 31, 2008 Thank you. Should I be worried about the Manderin now? It is in a 12g with all the inhabitants listed above. Is the lighting sufficient for the tank? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadReefer Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Does your mandarin eat frozen food? If so, it is probably fine. I think the lighting should be good for anything, with proper placement. You might want to add some actinic T5s, VHO, or CF. 20" might not be the easiest to work with, maybe http://www.hellolights.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=73 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishmanmike01 Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 I would agree with madreefer, I would leave out the sea hare and the mandarin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CA2OR Posted December 31, 2008 Author Share Posted December 31, 2008 Mad-I don't know if the Manderin eats frozen. I have only had him for about a week. What else would he eat? Mad&Fish-I was advised to by the Sea Hare from Upscale. Is there something I should know about them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CA2OR Posted December 31, 2008 Author Share Posted December 31, 2008 Link for cost efficient sump provided by WANAREEF. http://www.reefdiversity.com/DIYPage/DIY_HTML/DIY_SumpRefugeBudget.htm Thank you again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CA2OR Posted December 31, 2008 Author Share Posted December 31, 2008 Anyone have a skimmer they wanna donate?(whistle) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishmanmike01 Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Most mandarins will only eat copepods and other critters from the rock and sand, hence the smaller the tank the harder to feed and IME if you can get them to eat frozen that would be an accomplishment.Same goes for the hare, i assume you got got him for algae control... when its gone they are out of food and as madreefer said they can be fragile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CA2OR Posted December 31, 2008 Author Share Posted December 31, 2008 Ah....ok speaking of Algea, I have this hair (maybe grass) like algea is there something I can get that will eat that yet be reef safe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishmanmike01 Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 A sea hare LOL (laugh) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CA2OR Posted December 31, 2008 Author Share Posted December 31, 2008 Seriously? I thought I needed a crab of somekind or a lawn mower blenny or something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishmanmike01 Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Those would both help but my hermits dont really seem to make a big impact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CA2OR Posted December 31, 2008 Author Share Posted December 31, 2008 My hermits only seem to eat whatever falls to the sand during feeding. Are lawnmower blenny's good for this? Are they reef safe? Will they have any effect on my clowns breeding, as far as eating eggs or anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CA2OR Posted December 31, 2008 Author Share Posted December 31, 2008 Link for table of wood strengths provided by Andy http://www.woodbin.com/ref/wood/strength_table.htm Thank you(rock2) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowpunk Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Lawnmowers will grab at it a little but they aren't gonna get it gone. I posted a bigger answer in the general forum, but basically I would go to Seahorse aquarium supply and get Phosban or something similar to it. Isaac and sherri will help you out and then some down there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CA2OR Posted December 31, 2008 Author Share Posted December 31, 2008 Ah....thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Seriously? I thought I needed a crab of somekind or a lawn mower blenny or something A lettuce nudibranc would work also. But it has the same problem as the sea hare. Once you run out of algae, it will most likely die. The source of your algae problem is probably nutrient export. A skimmer will definitely help. While you are not running a skimmer, I would suggest frequent water changes of 10% a week or about 4 gallons. This should help with nutrient export. I am not a big fan of chemicals unless there is no other alternative. Good luck with the new tank. Jay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CA2OR Posted January 2, 2009 Author Share Posted January 2, 2009 Chief- thank you very much for your advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CA2OR Posted January 5, 2009 Author Share Posted January 5, 2009 Plans for the stand here are the plans for the stand courtesy of Wanareef. [/img] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jadams7 Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Hey if you are still looking for a skimmer I have a couple small ones I would trade for some zoos or something, you could have both of them and just see what you can do...I have no use for them and really dont know a whole lot about them...I am about 45min away from beaverton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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