obrien.david.j Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 Lost my Red Planet SPS to RTN in the last week. It's the only species hit, and I'm hoping I have an answer for why - but only time will tell. What am I thinking? I was gone for a week. Asking tank sitter to add WaterGlass every other day to increase Silica levels to encourage diatoms. (to fight dinos) Location of the RP colony was kind of in prime spot for just Pouring In the waterglass. I always pour slowly, but if you just Dump - I think it would have hit this coral. But, there's a strange twist. When I first got this colony, on tiny frag broke off, so I clued it on the front of the display rock to let it just naturally grow. It's done fine. Slow, since it was just a chip, but fine. What I've noticed is IT TOO has RTN'd. Almost like RTN on mother colony, also triggered RTN on this chip. As reef keepers, we don't always post about our failures. I have more than I've posted about for sure. Thought this would be an interesting one for everyone. Friday July 1st: (just a little section dieing) Sunday July 3rd, Expanding Friday July 8th, Gone. (algae over earlier death, white is recent death) Sympathetic Chip death 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaywood Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 Posting our failures is vital to learning. Just when I think I have it figured out something happens. I'll occasionally have a coral STN while others are fine. Of course it's usually one that I like most. It may, or not, have had anything to do with silicate dosage. I know there is some science regarding the relationship between such and diatoms, but personally in my take the goal is zero. I manage undesirable algae in other ways. Sorry for the loss, if had that coral I would gladly share the genome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandVib3s Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 I have had so much losses with rtn/stn, and what I've experienced is to cut off any of the infected and completely remove it from the tank. Sometimes it works.but it could also already be in the coral from something prior to you receiving it. Sps is tough. I feel your pain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emerald525 Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 Thanks for sharing. Anyone who tells you they have never lost a coral is lying. It’s such a delicate balance. Things can go well and then one small change. It’s the butterfly effect of reefing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach0225 Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 Sorry for your loss. Never easy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Z Reef Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 Have you ever tried witch hazel dosing for STN/RTN? Too late in this case but check it out. It’s one of the tools from Reef Moonshiners methods. I keep it on hand and have dosed on occasion. No I’ll effects and corals appeared to recover. Sucks to lose such a nice colony though, that is why I stopped keeping birds nest lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obrien.david.j Posted July 10, 2022 Author Share Posted July 10, 2022 55 minutes ago, Blue Z Reef said: Have you ever tried witch hazel dosing for STN/RTN? Too late in this case but check it out. It’s one of the tools from Reef Moonshiners methods. I keep it on hand and have dosed on occasion. No I’ll effects and corals appeared to recover. Sucks to lose such a nice colony though, that is why I stopped keeping birds nest lol Thanks for the input. I remember reading about it in the RM manual, but better go back and read again. Maybe it's time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertareef Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 On 7/10/2022 at 3:21 PM, Blue Z Reef said: Have you ever tried witch hazel dosing for STN/RTN? Too late in this case but check it out. It’s one of the tools from Reef Moonshiners methods. I keep it on hand and have dosed on occasion. No I’ll effects and corals appeared to recover. Sucks to lose such a nice colony though, that is why I stopped keeping birds nest lol Will have to check this out for future reference! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertareef Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 Well that is unfortunate but also really interesting to see that the remote piece also RTN'd along with the mother colony. Would argue against simple local conditions but perhaps something that species is more sensitive too as a whole. Alternately, perhaps something released from the RTN mother colony that selectively affects that species. Definitely fascinating even if highly unfortunate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obrien.david.j Posted July 12, 2022 Author Share Posted July 12, 2022 43 minutes ago, albertareef said: Well that is unfortunate but also really interesting to see that the remote piece also RTN'd along with the mother colony. Would argue against simple local conditions but perhaps something that species is more sensitive too as a whole. Alternately, perhaps something released from the RTN mother colony that selectively affects that species. Definitely fascinating even if highly unfortunate. That's why I posted this. A really interesting, remote connection. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parzifal Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 It would be interesting to have Eli over at aquabiomics to have pre and post water testing to see if there is a spike in an identifiable contributor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obrien.david.j Posted August 23, 2022 Author Share Posted August 23, 2022 Thanks to @NateDawg, I replaced my dead RedPlanet colony with a new branch. Nice and big, even if not the same size - it'll grow! @NateDawg Thank You! Old/Dead New/Replacement! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandVib3s Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Very nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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