Bicyclebill Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 So should I dip, or is it likely bacterial infection that causes these to go downhill like this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjmdh Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 Iodine dip maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxmonkeyboy Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 iodine dip is likely 100% better than nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuncrestReef Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 Just curious, what are your water parameters, and have you had any recent swings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertareef Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 Eli @EMeyer had a really interesting thread on the use of specific antibiotics to treat brown jelly on euphyllia (I can't tell if that is a likely culprit or not) but might be worth a read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuncrestReef Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 21 minutes ago, albertareef said: Eli @EMeyer had a really interesting thread on the use of specific antibiotics to treat brown jelly on euphyllia (I can't tell if that is a likely culprit or not) but might be worth a read. @Bicyclebill If you want to bring me a tissue sample, I can look at it under my microscope to see if there's any ciliates like those associated with brown jelly syndrome. Here's a video of those ciliates under my microscope from when my tank suffered from BJS. All of those brown spheres inside their bodies are the zoothanthellae they stole from the corals. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxmonkeyboy Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 What power scope is that? I got me one to ID dynos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuncrestReef Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 43 minutes ago, pdxmonkeyboy said: What power scope is that? I got me one to ID dynos. The video started out at 80x magnification, then I switched to 200x around the 30 second mark, and finally 800x around 1:30 into the video. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bicyclebill Posted March 3, 2021 Author Share Posted March 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, SuncrestReef said: The video started out at 80x magnification, then I switched to 200x around the 30 second mark, and finally 800x around 1:30 into the video. Is that a coaster, a small notepad, or a small book of puns? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AquaKey Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 7 minutes ago, SuncrestReef said: The video started out at 80x magnification, then I switched to 200x around the 30 second mark, and finally 800x around 1:30 into the video. Nice setup! Here's what I like to use, I think it's 1x 😂 2 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuncrestReef Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 8 minutes ago, Bicyclebill said: Is that a coaster, a small notepad, or a small book of puns? It’s a set of 4 coasters: 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danlu_gt Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 4 hours ago, SuncrestReef said: @Bicyclebill If you want to bring me a tissue sample, I can look at it under my microscope to see if there's any ciliates like those associated with brown jelly syndrome. Here's a video of those ciliates under my microscope from when my tank suffered from BJS. All of those brown spheres inside their bodies are the zoothanthellae they stole from the corals. Were you able to successfully treat BJS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuncrestReef Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 1 minute ago, danlu_gt said: Were you able to successfully treat BJS? I ended up siphoning out as much brown jelly as possible, pruning off all the damaged corals, then doing several water changes over a couple week period. It took about a month before I saw no new damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The ReefBox Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 7 minutes ago, SuncrestReef said: I ended up siphoning out as much brown jelly as possible, pruning off all the damaged corals, then doing several water changes over a couple week period. It took about a month before I saw no new damage. Good job for sticking with it. A lot of people have and would have thrown in the towel!’ 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMeyer Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 Ciprofloxacin at 0.125 mg per L. I find a specific Arcobacter sp. in every specimen of BJD I can get my hands on. This antibiotic knocks it out, and has in my hands been safe for in-tank treatments. I've treated two tanks with it, saved half a dozen colonies of Euphyllia. There are certainly ciliates visible in the samples of BJD but I consider them secondary. In my opinion they are eating the coral tissue that's already dying from the bacterial infection. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMeyer Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 I will add that I think dips make sense to kill surface parasites but I don't think they're the way to go for diseases. I tried cipro dips for a long time with no benefits before I decided to treat the whole tank. I don't think its possible to get enough medicine into the corals in a short dip, and long dips just stress the coral in other ways. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bicyclebill Posted March 3, 2021 Author Share Posted March 3, 2021 It's weird, I'm not having brown jelly on this one. I did lose one a few months back to brown jelly. This one it's as though the animal is expelling itself out of the skeleton. Reminds me of when I've used a scalpel to cut out mushrooms from rocks and they're still just barely hanging on. I need to figure out a better solution to this iPhone 11 camera because it sucks for taking pictures under aquarium lighting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obrien.david.j Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 52 minutes ago, Bicyclebill said: It's weird, I'm not having brown jelly on this one. I did lose one a few months back to brown jelly. This one it's as though the animal is expelling itself out of the skeleton. Reminds me of when I've used a scalpel to cut out mushrooms from rocks and they're still just barely hanging on. I need to figure out a better solution to this iPhone 11 camera because it sucks for taking pictures under aquarium lighting. Either of these work great with my iphone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuncrestReef Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 19 minutes ago, obrien.david.j said: Either of these work great with my iphone. I did a side-by-side review of both of these filters. I prefer the IceCap version. See: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/smartphone-camera-filter-comparison.634162/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bighoho Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 What's the specific brand of cipro folks are using? Anyone find one that's more effective then the other? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cjmdh Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 Cipro is a brand name of ciprofloxacin. You'll need a prescription to get it unless you have some leftover from a previous ailment. Any brand should be the same. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMeyer Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 17 hours ago, Bighoho said: What's the specific brand of cipro folks are using? Anyone find one that's more effective then the other? the one I used is https://www.entirelypets.com/thomas-labs-fish-flox-forte-500-mg-30-tablets.html I have not experimented with others. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjmdh Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 27 minutes ago, EMeyer said: the one I used is https://www.entirelypets.com/thomas-labs-fish-flox-forte-500-mg-30-tablets.html I have not experimented with others. Looks like they have a whole range of antibiotics for fish. No script required. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danlu_gt Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 On 3/4/2021 at 11:01 AM, EMeyer said: the one I used is https://www.entirelypets.com/thomas-labs-fish-flox-forte-500-mg-30-tablets.html I have not experimented with others. Do you still need to cut off the diseased area? Will antibiotics stop the spread? I recently got some wall hammers. One of the hammer have one spot that would not open. After a week, that area have started to die back and I can see the skeleton. Seems like the infected area is spreading. I ended up cutting off that section yesterday. I didn't have any iodine at the time so I ended up using vodka and squirted at the area I just cut. So far it's looking good. Would be nice to dose some antibiotics and not have to cut off the infected area cause it's hard to reach down 36"H tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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