Webbed Feet Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 (edited) Everyone might tell I'm doing some shopping! 🙂 In the near future I'll be moving a Red Sea 70 gallon E260 all in one to a different room in my home and adding a sump upon setting it back up again. Many of you have been just fantastic with some quick opinions for me, it is very appreciated with all the sales on right now. I'm thinking the two current main tank pumps in the built in rear sump are not going to work (or be the best) for the sump as I'm pretty sure I'll be needing to use very different piping size (and I think I leave those in place anyway). What are your opinions of good solid, bang for the buck, dependable, quiet, pumps? Would most of you use DC variable speed models? Thanks again, this club's participation is just great! Edited November 26, 2020 by Webbed Feet typos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce00 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 I’ve got the redsea E-260 and it’s been great. I’ve had the reef octopus various 2 I think it is for nearly 3 years no issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodstock Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 I used a Vectra M1 on the E260 +sump and was able to upgrade it to my RSR350 with no issues. Totally silent and running on Mobius with my Mp40s and XR15 G4 Pros. Couldn’t be happier! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willapa Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 I’ll second the reef octopus varios pumps. I have the 6 and has worked flawlessly and run solid for 3 years. You can’t even hear it running and very easy to disassemble for cleaning. It has never once gotten hung up when it’s turned off like many other pumps I have. It’s reasonably priced and usually on some Black Friday sales. I was tempted to pick up a spare. Going DC is great since you can vary the flow rate to suit your tank and I like to crank mine up when blasting sediment off rocks to turn the water over quicker through my socks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The ReefBox Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 +1 on ecotech m1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxmonkeyboy Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Jebao. Silent, dependable, cheap. I have several that are 5 years old at this point. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjmdh Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 (edited) ditto what ⬆️ said. Edited November 24, 2020 by cjmdh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClark Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 hour ago, pdxmonkeyboy said: Jebao. Silent, dependable, cheap. I have several that are 5 years old at this point. Same, really tough to beat. When I move the sump to garage 1 level down, will probably need to switch to the reeflos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxmonkeyboy Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 I have been thinking of switching my reeflo hammerhead out for two Jebaos.. maybe we should chat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClark Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 1 hour ago, pdxmonkeyboy said: I have been thinking of switching my reeflo hammerhead out for two Jebaos.. maybe we should chat? Maybe! I think I have two hammerheads though, but one needs some seal work. I want two have two, so that if the seals on one goes while on vacation, can switch it over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willapa Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 Those Jebaos are hard to beat. I put one on my closed loop and has not skipped a beat in a couple of years. Just makes me nervous having one as a return pump 😆 but this is not based on a bad experience. Just because you pay more means it’ll be more dependable right 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClark Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Willapa said: Those Jebaos are hard to beat. I put one on my closed loop and has not skipped a beat in a couple of years. Just makes me nervous having one as a return pump 😆 but this is not based on a bad experience. Just because you pay more means it’ll be more dependable right 😂 Good point! They are so reasonable priced, I run two returns, one per sea swirl. Just dial them back as necessary. If one goes out, the overflow is noisy but everything is just fine! Because, once, getting ready to board a plane, my return quit! Murphy!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willapa Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 26 minutes ago, TheClark said: Good point! They are so reasonable priced, I run two returns, one per sea swirl. Just dial them back as necessary. If one goes out, the overflow is noisy but everything is just fine! Because, once, getting ready to board a plane, my return quit! Murphy!! Oh yea, Murphy! Nice redundancy with dual return pumps.......easy to do that with the price of Jebaos and likely safer than any single high end return pump. Maybe when I’m leaving the house post covid I can install a second pump. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibondy Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 I love Jebao pups for their quality and price. I am controlling them via Apex. I buy two at the time and plumb them in both and use one in a stand by mode. and still save money over 'top' brands. Using Apex I can switch the pumps from anywhere, in case of failure. Did not had to do it, yet. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webbed Feet Posted November 25, 2020 Author Share Posted November 25, 2020 Regarding the Jebao..... Do you guys mean these? Would sure agree, the price is right. If plumbed in pairs for redundant backup, pretty hard to beat the value. https://www.amazon.com/Jebao-DCP-8000-Sine-Water-Return/dp/B07F1LWN39/ref=psdc_2975475011_t3_B07H1S5FRT?th=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxmonkeyboy Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 @TheClark, the seals are pretty easy to replace if they start to go bad. One thing is that if you buy the seals directly from them or an aquarium place they are $30. But if you google the seal type they are like $9. Go figure. If you start going REALLY big on the Jebao pumps remember that they are similar to other large pumps and you need a good straight run into the pump or you can cause micro bubbles from excessive negative pressures. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webbed Feet Posted November 26, 2020 Author Share Posted November 26, 2020 I notice nobody mentions the Neptune Systems COR-20 Intelligent Return Pump that is part of the Apex accessories. Something I don't know, other than the price is steep? A bit of a surprise given Apex is pretty popular overall on the forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibondy Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 16 hours ago, Webbed Feet said: Regarding the Jebao..... Do you guys mean these? Would sure agree, the price is right. If plumbed in pairs for redundant backup, pretty hard to beat the value. https://www.amazon.com/Jebao-DCP-8000-Sine-Water-Return/dp/B07F1LWN39/ref=psdc_2975475011_t3_B07H1S5FRT?th=1 I use these Return Pumps - ReefBreeders.com because you get US based warranty and Apex connectivity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibondy Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Webbed Feet said: I notice nobody mentions the Neptune Systems COR-20 Intelligent Return Pump that is part of the Apex accessories. Something I don't know, other than the price is steep? A bit of a surprise given Apex is pretty popular overall on the forum. Price too steep + reputation of the pump is not that great, imho. Edited November 26, 2020 by ibondy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce00 Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 My only friend who runs Neptune COR has pooped out on him, it was under warranty still luckily. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxmonkeyboy Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 IMO the cor pumps are way overpriced, almost as much as the vectras. To me there is a time and place for high tech..like the trident...but a pump is just that, a pump. Anyways, that is just my opinion. There a lots of good choices in this thread, buy the one you will be excited about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gumby Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 Reeflo has been very reliable for me. Did have to replace the seals in my first but that was after 5 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash21 Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 No issues with my Cor 15...love it so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Z Reef Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 Another one for Jebao from me. I’ve had long lifespans out of them and they work great and are quiet. The new “sine wave” models are the quietest of them I’ve used. For the money, you can afford to have one on the shelf if you ever had an issue. Can’t recommend them enough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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