Re_Run Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 So got Ich in the main DT just finished setting you my Hosp tank 40g with 40g sump 300 per hr return BB. Going to try hypo 1st. planning have my babbie in the qt for 6-8 wks. not sure to do with the nems though. putting all lr in 55gal drun with pwr heads and heater and letting the dt go fallow during that time. The question is what level should the water be, I've heard from 1.00 to 1.20 and wether to run a skimmer or not. Any advise would be helpful. Also set up a 2nd 10g for copper treatment if the 1st doesn't work. Thanks in advance. 5 tanks and of cousre the biggest one gets it DOH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimberlee Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 Hope this helps.... http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2007/6/fish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuttleFishandCoral Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 I would gradually reduce the salinity down to 1.09...Sorry to hear about ich. I think everybody has been threw it before. Hypo has worked for me in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimberlee Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 Also found this one http://saltaquarium.about.com/od/hyposalinity/ht/ht_hyposalinity.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gill Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 What size tank and how many fish??? I am currently running hypo on my DT, I have way too many fish to keep them in a QT (unless it was the size of my DT). LOL. It is a lot easier to keep coral in a QT IMO because they won't pollute the water like fish will. If you decide to go copper then you will have to use a QT because you don't want it in your DT EVER!!! I have read that using hypo and copper is a death sentence so if you do decide to use copper make sure the fish are back to a normal SG. Oh ya, I also read that while the fish can tolerate a rather quick lowering of SG, the SG must be brought back up slowly over a 6 day period. Apparently it is the return to regular SG that is the most dangerous time for your finned friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racefan Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 When I treated for ICH, I just put my 6 line Wrasse (he was the only survivor) in my Q/T & did a hypo salinity treatment & let my display go fallow for 8 weeks. I left all my coral & inverts (including a RBTA) in the display while it went fallow. That was about a year ago & so far so good (knocking on wood) It's tempting to shorting the fallow cycle when everything is looking good. DON'T. Longer is better. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancecobb1 Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 what fish got it? soak thier food in garlic, and feed them more frequently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev311 Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 Anything to build up their slime coat is helpful Sent from my HTC Desire S using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Re_Run Posted August 12, 2012 Author Share Posted August 12, 2012 Did the garlic thing 7 died. Do garlic every day feed 2 -3 time a day mixed diet soaked in garlic // just got the 1st and the worst in QT monitoring for signs of distress (ok cann't spell have dislexia) got water set at 1.16 76 F. Wish I had the QT set up done earlier // never again. Had to make space plumb fill ect.. took a day too long (cussing) Lost 6 line, yellow gobbie, pipe fish, flame hawk, hippo tang, coral beauty, yellow eye tang, made me (sick) // clown in QT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Re_Run Posted August 12, 2012 Author Share Posted August 12, 2012 tank looks so sad... I hate it when I loose one of my babbies when it's my fault. Never had this before.. stupid me turned my last qt into a frag tank.. now this arggg.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Re_Run Posted August 12, 2012 Author Share Posted August 12, 2012 Guess I got a case of too trusting.. fish look great quick dip then in the tank.. lesson learned Now will do a strick QT on every thing 3 tanks now set up 1 hosp for copper.. 1 Qt fish, 1 corals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gill Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 I know this isn't what you want to hear but there are members on this forum (not me) who do not fear ick. Some of the nicest tanks on this forum do not use QT. my point is not that you should not QT, but you need to look a little deeper into what caused this, you are doing something wrong. I'm not sure if your not feeding good food/not enough food. Maybe you have too many fish for your sized system? All I know is that for seven fish to die something is wrong, it is easy to just say it was the ick but you should really be examining all aspects of your system IE what you feed, how much you feed, how many fish you have/what species. My blue tang has lived for years with ick, he is in a 125 though, had I had him in a ten gallon he wouldn't have lasted a week. It is important to find the deeper cause because even with a QT for new fish, something as simple as a turbo snail could re introduce ick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike nickerson Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 also how old is your system and how big is it? that could be another factor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Re_Run Posted August 13, 2012 Author Share Posted August 13, 2012 about 2years old, about 3 months in current location moved every thing from water to rock in the move. 90 gal 1/2" starfire glass bb w/ 40ish gal sump, fuge, skimmer, carbon, phosban calcium reactors 2 seaswirls dual returns, 140 3 watt led set up with moon lights about 150 lbs lr and 20 in the sump 96w mixed pc over sump running on off cycle on main lights over fuge. water parms all good no copper tested for it sg about 1.24/25 varies a little due to evap (no room for ato) just only ro/di water new all new filters (ouch) last month, picked up acouple new fish the other day didn't QT big (nono) w/in 24 hours half the tank had spots took 3 days to set up the new qt (total 4 days) in that time had half the tank die. Whats Left 4 green cromies ( no sings of ich yet) 2 blue yellow tail cromies ( no sings of ich yet) pair of black clowns pair of tomato clowns (they are/were due to move to my other tank) 1 perc clown (had to take out of my 60 was fighting with my other 6 line was going to re-home on my next build in a month or 2) 7 rose lta 2 over 8 inch few softies 1 glta 1 blood red shrip 2 cleaner shrimp cuc various none of the remaining fish are over 3" various shrooms, hammers, candy canes.. ect might be missing a thing or 2 dose garlic once every 3 days feed mixed diet 1-3 times a day small portions soaked in garlic 10-15 min prior to feeding 5 gal week water change (Kent) + about 5 gal of ro/di water (due to evap) Just sick to my stomach ( wife joke with me says I love my babbies more than my kids) guess not other wise I would have done a proper QT. It took over the tank sooo fast.( went out and bought a whole set up/system to QT them) CRASH AND BURN.. thinking tearing the whole thing down doing vinger bath then re-setting it. very bummed right now thanks for any help will see what happen now that I have them in QT. still not sure what to do with the nems as of yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancecobb1 Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 The fish you got from me the other day were fat and healthy, all of them were in my tank for at least 5 years and i never saw a spot in them. (Im sure people on here that saw them would say so to) not sure what happened but it sure sucks to lose so much at one time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Re_Run Posted August 13, 2012 Author Share Posted August 13, 2012 Don't think it was your fault.. think they may have been in the bags too long.. my fault for having you wait too long on a hot day and not doing a proper QT.. btw the others are doing fine in my other tanks. I think the purple and the potter love their new home lots of rock work with a bunch of caves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancecobb1 Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 That's good! I'm glad they are liking their new home...I hated having to sell them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatChevy Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 I actually mix 2 capsules of pure dried garlic in my frozen food for feeding. regardless if they have ich or not. I had it once and (knock on wood (gavel) ) have never had it again! its all about prevention Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Re_Run Posted August 14, 2012 Author Share Posted August 14, 2012 lost one of the clowns in QT this morning all the rest are showing signs of improvement.. spots are starting to go away. 7 1/2 weeks to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Re_Run Posted August 15, 2012 Author Share Posted August 15, 2012 the mated clown pairlook better today alot less spots eathing well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancecobb1 Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Nice! I hope everything gets better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Re_Run Posted August 21, 2012 Author Share Posted August 21, 2012 All fish are now clean of spots.. all are eating better.. 6 1/2 weeks left to go.. hold in sg at 1.16 // Main tank was completely broken down cleaned left sump a lone // new sand bed. lr got a fresh water dip and re-mounted. Took 2 days for tear donw an re-set. Water has finaly cleared up. looking great. now crystal clear now just waiting on the fish. The Skimmer went nuts for 3 days almost a cup a day ( 200 gal rate pm) (must have been the die off on some of the lr from the dip) The smell was like wow.. now it super clear no smell lost half the cuc turbos died but go figure the hermits made it np. With all lr wonder how long for it to cycle but thinking it will match up.. fuge full of cheto ect lots of pods. gsp are staring to open.. never will let this happen again. always QT new add to the tank. now have a QT for fish and 2nd for coral 2 40g b.. + a 10 gal hosp.. lesson learned (flame) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimberlee Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 I am so glad to hear hypo's working for you and that you didn't get hit worse. Good job by the way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandinga Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Re-run, I didn't realize you brought down your entire tank to get rid of ich...the parasites will die in 8 weeks with no host. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Your tank is probably going to go through a mini cycle, especially with a new sand bed. I would be very careful in adding all your fish at once to the tank now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Re_Run Posted August 22, 2012 Author Share Posted August 22, 2012 was planning on waiting the full qt cycle- 6 1/2 to 7 more weeks ish (daz). just had a massive algee bloom today woke up and the sand bed and walls are covered lol.. water change and cleaning day in store for me.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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