J-Dog Posted October 4, 2011 Author Share Posted October 4, 2011 Soda ash is the result of baked baking soda.....Are u saying u can buy soda ash in bulk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeramy Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Yes you can I use it in my swimming pool. Also works very well to kill moss on the side walks and drive way =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoobtoSalt Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Soda ash is the result of baked baking soda.....Are u saying u can buy soda ash in bulk? Get in on the group buy or see if you can add to someone elses purchase. I still have a bunch right now and I've had it for a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Dog Posted October 4, 2011 Author Share Posted October 4, 2011 Get in on the group buy or see if you can add to someone elses purchase. I still have a bunch right now and I've had it for a year. Jesse, what I am trying to do is make or buy my own 2-part products instead of buying it from BRS. They charge way too much $ for this stuff....I can get 50 lbs of calcium chloride/soda ash for the same price as they sell 7 lbs. I'm not a math expert, but something doesn't seem right (scratch) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeramy Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 I was gonna say last time I bought a 50 pound bag of soda ash for 35 bucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Dog Posted October 5, 2011 Author Share Posted October 5, 2011 I was gonna say last time I bought a 50 pound bag of soda ash for 35 bucks. Did u get baking soda or soda ash? If it was soda ash, where did u get it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finch6013 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 check out buckeyefieldsupply.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Dog Posted October 5, 2011 Author Share Posted October 5, 2011 check out buckeyefieldsupply.com Brandon, it doesn't look like they sell soda ash And does anyone know why the Reef Keeping articles no longer exist? I wanted to read Randy's 2-part article again, but the whole site seems to be down. Any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finch6013 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 You might search for it on some other forums. I know at one time it was posted on Reef Central. At one time that site sold soda ash, and they had a link to the randy's two part also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Dog Posted October 5, 2011 Author Share Posted October 5, 2011 They still had a link to Randy's site, but the site is either not working or has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeramy Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 I bought it from wilmar but if you check with any pool supply company they will carry it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocboat Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Jesse' date=' what I am trying to do is make or buy my own 2-part products instead of buying it from BRS. They charge way too much $ for this stuff....I can get 50 lbs of calcium chloride/soda ash for the same price as they sell 7 lbs. I'm not a math expert, but something doesn't seem right (scratch)[/quote'] You are paying for the assurance that it is not going to wipe out your tank. I'm sure that they use the same stuff that you can buy in bulk, it's just a question of what exactly is it that they use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MVPaquatics Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 Found it anywhere yet? I cant! Called feed stores. Home depot. Ace. Pool supply. Nothing. Anyone have any to sell or trade for pm me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MVPaquatics Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 Found some at a pool store finally. Im gonna test it out. Anyone tried damprid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Dog Posted October 8, 2011 Author Share Posted October 8, 2011 Found some at a pool store finally. Im gonna test it out. Anyone tried damprid? Did u find calcium chloride or soda ash? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MVPaquatics Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 Calcium chloride. Bioguard brand. Balance pak 300. At tigards the pool and spa house. Calcium chloride. He said it was 100% which i doubt. I am hoping if there are other ingredients that they are potassium and strontium not bromide. I have heard a few people using it but not anything super long term. I dont use "soda ash." I use a combo of baked baking soda (sodium cabonate) and regular baking soda (sodium bicarbonate) to keep ph stable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Dog Posted October 8, 2011 Author Share Posted October 8, 2011 Thanks for the info.....I think I'm gonna order the 50 lb bag of calcium chloride 77-80% and give that a shot. As for the soda ash, I guess I'll just buy a big bag of Arm & Hammer baking soda and cook it myself. Why don't people use these items long term? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Why don't people use these items long term? For me I use the stuff from bulk reef cause I know what is was meant for I dont like cutting corners when it comes to the tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MVPaquatics Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Oh I am sure people do use them longterm, I just meant that there hasn't been extensive longterm studies done on these pool products, etc. DOWflakes are (were) tried and true and had studies done to prove it, as did prestone driveway heat, however DOWs formula has changed, and a lot of the 20-23% that isn't calcium chloride is calcium bromide. Longterm use, especially with no water changes, leads to an increase in bromine levels in the tank, which no one is really sure what is result. Similarly the same thing results from using epsom salts for magnesium. Long-term use with no water changes leads to an increase in sulfate levels in the tank, which no one really know what will happen, but no one wants to really be the guinea pig. Its probably fine with water changes. Baking soda is tried and true, its just about purity. Arm and hammer seems fine. I use baked and non-baked in proportion to try and change pH as little as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MVPaquatics Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 For me I use the stuff from bulk reef cause I know what is was meant for I dont like cutting corners when it comes to the tank. some people call it cutting corners, others call it repackaging a product you can buy in bulk. I have WAAAAY too many tanks to pay even what bulk reef wants. If you can get 100% sodium bicarbonate from arm and hammer for $25 for 50lbs or bulk reef for $56 for 40lbs? I personally trust arm and hammer's purity just fine, and dont see why bulk reef would use and better, its just repackaging for a specialty market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Dog Posted October 9, 2011 Author Share Posted October 9, 2011 Oh I am sure people do use them longterm, I just meant that there hasn't been extensive longterm studies done on these pool products, etc. DOWflakes are (were) tried and true and had studies done to prove it, as did prestone driveway heat, however DOWs formula has changed, and a lot of the 20-23% that isn't calcium chloride is calcium bromide. Longterm use, especially with no water changes, leads to an increase in bromine levels in the tank, which no one is really sure what is result. Similarly the same thing results from using epsom salts for magnesium. Long-term use with no water changes leads to an increase in sulfate levels in the tank, which no one really know what will happen, but no one wants to really be the guinea pig. Its probably fine with water changes. Baking soda is tried and true, its just about purity. Arm and hammer seems fine. I use baked and non-baked in proportion to try and change pH as little as possible. So how do u know the calcium chloride BRS sells us doesn't have bromide in it? They could be using the exact same stuff that we are looking for. As for epsom salts, my tanks mag levels rarely change, so I hardly dose for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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