chalice color transfer

[stylaster]

Interesting result of two chalices growing together. The chalice on the left (yellow eye blue rim) has kept consistent color the chalice on the right orange eye brown base has now developed a blue rim once it came in contact with the other one. Pretty cool, not sure if it's a transfer of genetics of not but still neat

 

[moto826]

thats cool are they growing together or jest next to each other

[stylaster]

they grew into each other, i also have bubblegum monster and oregon mummy eye doing it to

[moto826]

sweet the two wanted chalices of mine lol

[grassi]

zooxanthellae can travel from one coral to the other. it is very common with acans.

But this is not just them, unless they have a "sense" of their positioning (the ring) on a similar coral.

Pretty cool. I think that this is gonna be one of the main fields of experiments in our hobby in the next decades.

[stylaster]

time to start trail blazing between this and clams ill be famous lol

[grassi]

Roy & Alex Corals paint shop lol

Somebody will find a way to bleach them and then give it the desired color. It is just a manner of time. Creepy concept though

[stylaster]

hehe, very small hypodermic needles to extract the zooanthallae and tissue then do a transplant, will need to come up with some sort of anti reject drug first hehe, or i just could use mine i take for my transplant

[Rick]

........ I think that this is gonna be one of the main fields of experiments in our hobby in the next decades.

 

I was kind of thinking the same thing.

[grassi]

Don't tempt me with basement mad scientist projects. I can't say no

The problem is how to separate them form the donor (scratch)

[grassi]

I was kind of thinking the same thing.

 

Somehow they do it already. ZeoVit does it in a certain way.

I see already Nails Shops for corals, with pierced acropora and so on lol

[Hozer21]

Those pictures look sweet Roy

[DennisW]

I don't think the zooxanthellae alge has any color but brown. The color of the coral is from the coral's own pigments. Not the zooxanthellae.

 

Dennis

[grassi]

Yes, they are brown if seen under a microscope, but they can carry the photosynthetic pigments present in the coral cells. We were referring to the possibility (much easier) to extract pigments through the algae, using them as a media, instead of extracting the pigment itself

[DennisW]

Well, I set out to do a little more research and found a few papers relating to "bleaching" which stated that zooxanthelle algae contain photosynthetic pigments. I always thought that these were provided solely by the host coral but apparently not.

 

I typed a few differnt responses to this thread but deleted them. I learned quite a bit from researching what I THOUGHT I knew. Thanks!

 

Dennis

[grassi]

I've read that the pigments can be present in both the coral cells and zooxanthellae.

When I say that they are brown, I mean under my compound microscope, no idea about the real color or how they look like under some better equipment.

I didn't find any good reading yet, but for sure they seem to be responsible, directly or indirectly, to the color.

But yes, it is an amazing world to explore. I'll post a picture of my acans later

[grassi]

I had my acans spread apart. I had to remove them from their original position because some sps colonies were growing on top of them. So I put them on the sand bed for a couple of weeks, all together. I then re-glued them on the rock in a different position, spread apart as before.

I then noticed that my red acan is starting to morph into some kind of green rainbow. The color is similar to some green I have on one green acan. I have them since forever, no morph before and they are at the same light intensity.

I know that Zooxanthellae can move a lot in acans, so I hope I got lucky and I'm soon gonna have a wonderful rainbow for cheap

 

Notice how the color change is starting from the edge. I'm not sure that that was the edge touching the green one. I can try to put them close again and see if the green will pop even more.

 

[moto826]

could you use a needle and switch Zooxanthellae from one of the same but different color corals

[stylaster]

interesting on the acans alex, you should put two together and see if they will color morph, ill have to try it with some rotundoflora ones i have and see what happens

[impur]

Alex give those even less light and the rainbow will REALLY come out.

 

Kinda like that one i got from you Roy.

[NoobtoSalt]

So from what I understand from this, I can have my acans next to each other and it's possible to get a new morph? I was under the impression that they stung each other?

[stylaster]

as long as the sub-species are the same if you put an acan lord next to an acan rotundoflora one would kill the other, but two acan lords next to each other should be ok. same with chalices, if they are the same species they seem to coexist fine, only down side is you have to really know your corals and have a bit of luck to make sure they dont kill each other

[NoobtoSalt]

as long as the sub-species are the same if you put an acan lord next to an acan rotundoflora one would kill the other' date=' but two acan lords next to each other should be ok. same with chalices, if they are the same species they seem to coexist fine, only down side is you have to really know your corals and have a bit of luck to make sure they dont kill each other[/quote']

 

I might just frag a couple of my acans and try it. Sounds kind of cool.

[grassi]

I might just frag a couple of my acans and try it. Sounds kind of cool.

 

Yes, try. I'm sure they wont kill each other. As for the color transfer I don't know if this happens frequently, but I've found some other people that noted it.

Keep us updated, it's an interesting topic.

[Mandinga]

I have an orange echinata next to a rainbow echinata and the part of the rainbow that is touching the orange has totally turned orange.